Increase 7.62 lethality...

[Eagler]

are armored sections of aircraft modeled into AH? AH2?

does it make a difference where you hit with a particular ammo type as in what damage that ammo type creates?

are self sealing fuel tanks modeled? does it make a difference when you hit one with different types of ammo compared to a non sealing one?

does fuel load matter? does a plane exploded more easily when heavy with fuel or empty with vapors?

[Rasker]

I fly Ju88's a lot and find that the smarter pilots attacking 88 formations will try to avoid getting facefuls of .30's for substantial periods of time.

If Hurricane 1's and 2's could decimate the LW bomber force using 8x.30's,  than an incautiously flown fighter, late war or not, would not keep all the important pieces for very long facing 2 x 3 belly guns or 2 x 3 top guns or even both.

[Pooh21]

Originally posted by Xjazz
How far that Hurri was shooting?


Mk1's 2664pc .303cal ammos last about 20sec.


Hurricane Mk1's 8*.303cals can bite harder than people think.

YOU were like 600-300 of my tail

[OIO]

you wont shoot anything down with .303's unless you got 6 of them shooting at a target at d200 or less and get a good 1s or 2s spray on them.

[Xjazz]

Originally posted by Pooh21
YOU were like 600-300 of my tail

Hee hee Pooh21, maybe AH1's cumulative damage model get you finaly. 8*.303 is a huge shotgun at longer ranges.
AH2 looks very promising concerning the gunnery and damage model.
BTW remember that the enemy on your six is closer than you think.

Originally posted by OIO
you wont shoot anything down with .303's unless you got 6 of them shooting at a target at d200 or less and get a good 1s or 2s spray on them.

Your .303cal convergence range setting must be way off

[RTSigma]

I learned that sometimes its best to fix your convergence distance, perhaps you were spraying him less effectively rather than a concentrated distance shot.

I have my guns converge at 550-650 depending as I like to take distance shots, getting in some damage on the enemy before engaging into ACM.

With 7.62's, I read that Japanese pilots used these to "bore sight" their target and open up with their cannons shortly afterward. Now I know the JU88 doesn't have cannons, but your best bet is to aim at their ailerons, taking out the tips of his wings. An unskilled pilot will make an evasive manuever and somewhat lose control with that loss. Other than that, pepper the winshield and hope to either make him think twice or hit his pilot.

Although what I always say, better to hit than to miss.

[LWACE]

i dunno, but i find most of the time i go dead 6 at a ju-88 its deadly, half the time my wing falls off after not to long of gettin hit. i think they are fine as is.

definetly respect planes with 303s more.

[Mister Fork]

Has anyone tested AHII for the leathality of the guns on the Ju-88?

[bozon]

the problem is that in AH you usually need to cause structural failure to bring the plane down. rifle caliber guns don't do that. they do hit soft internal components: cabels, fuel/oil lines, pilots...etc. That is not modeled well in the damage model.

As of current the 7.62 is useless, and in combat useless weapons are not endorsed..

That's not true. I find them extremely usefull in shooting chutes.

Bozon