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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2004, 01:01:54 PM »
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 The black widow in your kids hand freaks me out..... like made me shudder! lol
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« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2004, 01:03:02 PM »
They said the same on the show. This snake has a mix of both hemotoxic (predominant) and neurotoxic venom. This guy was reacting severely to both..bleeding like Curval said and convulsing/spasming from the neuro. I suppose if you decide to get a snakebite, do it in CA. Good treatment. ;)
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« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2004, 01:05:32 PM »
Did you notice the guys legs?  They looked like there was an alien inside his legs going up and down inside his skin.  Really freaky because it was his muscles spasming out.
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« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2004, 01:08:54 PM »
Yeah. Freaked me out. You'd think he drank a gallon of sarin or something. Mercifully, he was comatose during the worst of it. They brought him in at the end of that show and he watched a video of himself lying in the ER. He was equally freaked.
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« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2004, 01:18:45 PM »
Venom ER is shot about 5 miles from here. Loma Linda University MC. I supposedly live in the middle of rattlesnake heaven... and I haven't seen one for at least 10 years.
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« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2004, 01:18:49 PM »
Black widows are the only poisonos spiders that can kill you in the US. However there are a bunch of other very common looking ones that have some serious poison and can damage tissue. I know someone who was bitten by a very common looking spider and now he has a small crater on his face because of it. Thats why I kill all the spiders I find in the house. Outside, their safe unless its a black widow. Takes alot for a widow to actually bite you (they usually just scurry away) but Id rather see them dead than take chances. Yuck.
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« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2004, 01:38:18 PM »
GTOra....you got any 74's layin around?
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« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2004, 01:53:23 PM »
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It has been all over the news here. A workman found some black widow spiders in some construction equipment last week.



I have several around the outside of my house as I sit here and type.  Many crickets and roaches in Arizona, especially on the outskirts of developed areas, like where I live.  BW spiders help control these other pests and since BW's are orb weavers,  they never leave their nest, ergo you always know where they are.

Scorpions however are another matter.  We have them here and they are roaming hunters who can squeeze themselves very flat to fit in the tightest of cracks.  They are also highly resistant to insecticides. One species here in AZ, (bark scorpion) is deadly to small children, the sick and the infirm.  They are small and almost clear so they can be very hard to see.

Saw a rather large scorpion in one of my garages the other day, not 3 feet from my open hockey bag. wonderful.......
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« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2004, 02:06:08 PM »
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BW spiders help control these other pests and since BW's are orb weavers,  they never leave their nest, ergo you always know where they are.


See, I have a mixed blessing in that I have a cat who looks after all of our rodent problems.  It isn't my cat, but in exchange for a few pieces of meat every couple of weeks he takes care of any mice or rats in our area.

Now...here we have lizards that handle our insects.  Big ones, almost like Iguanas.  BUT...the cats have a tendancy to kill the lizards.

So...I think I will try and catch a lizard and put him inside.  They eats all types of insects including roaches and spiders.  I like them, they are clean and quite tame if they have been inside a house for a while.
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« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2004, 02:21:13 PM »
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Saw a rather large scorpion in one of my garages the other day, not 3 feet from my open hockey bag


how aggressive are those? how poisonous? how do you get rid of them?
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« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2004, 02:32:10 PM »
I caught a small scorpion in my office yesterday, about 1.5 inches long... I let it go outside.
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« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2004, 02:35:42 PM »
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how aggressive are those? how poisonous? how do you get rid of them?


hire an ex-f16 pilot/CIA agent/flight-sim "designer" to take care of them for you.

he's expensive tho' as you have to pay all medical bills for a brain tumor.

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« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2004, 02:52:56 PM »
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how aggressive are those? how poisonous? how do you get rid of them?


Toronto, they aren't very aggressive at all really.  The problem is that they tend to get into places where they will become threatened.  You know  they get in shoes, gloves, cabinets, laundry.  Had a friend get painfully stung when he got out of the shower and wrapped a scorpion hiding place around himself(otherwise known as a towel).

Only the bark scorpion is considered deadly(as far as North America).  However, scorpion stings are VERY painful.

I used to live near a preserve here, woke up one morning, looked up and there was a scorpion on the ceiling directly over my head... they can go anywhere.
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« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2004, 03:45:20 PM »
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If you sleep naked with vasoline all over you, you will not be bitten.... I'm pretty sure.

Well maybe not by a spider, big boy.

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« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2004, 04:21:14 PM »
I heard somewhere that the spider commonly known as the Grand Daddy Long Legs has the deadliest venom but its fangs are to small to harm us....























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