Commite a crime... you're a terrorist.

[mosgood]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=3&u=/nm/20040617/us_nm/crime_zetajones_dc_3



"The 33-year-old woman was arraigned last week on one count of stalking and 25 counts of making "terrorist  threats," the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said in a statement. "


Unfortunately, this is part of the legacy of GWB and how he created the homeland defense policies so open for interpretation.

[Yeager]

the article did not elaborate on the nature of the terroristic threats. Without some knowledge on these threats, I dont think anyone can draw a valid conclusion with respects to homeland defense policies.

Sounds more like ignorant liberal gas venting to me.

[moot]

liberals should be taught to vent gas informedly.

[Mickey1992]

Originally posted by mosgood
Unfortunately, this is part of the legacy of GWB and how he created the homeland defense policies so open for interpretation.

I compare this to the "Hate crime" trend from 10 years ago.

[VOR]

OMG this is great. "Terroristic threats..."

Don't you guys know what this is?

[Eagler]

I am for anything they can slap on to add more time for the convited criminal to spend behind bars...I don't care what they call it

[mosgood]

Originally posted by Yeager
the article did not elaborate on the nature of the terroristic threats. Without some knowledge on these threats, I dont think anyone can draw a valid conclusion with respects to homeland defense policies.

Sounds more like ignorant liberal gas venting to me.

amazing how fast you pucker up as soon as your dogma is threatened.

[Nash]

Originally posted by VOR
OMG this is great. "Terroristic threats..."

Don't you guys know what this is?

a Bushism?

[lazs2]

so..  what exactly did she do that was considered a terrorist act?  How did that fall under the patriot act?  

and... How exactly do you feel about "hate crimes" moss?

when conservatives are in they kill SLA members... when liberals are in they kill a bunch of whacky church members and about 30 of their kids are roasted alive.

when liberals are in they create "hate crimes" when conservatives are in they create "terrorist" crimes..

so far... the lesser of two evils is the conservatives..  the  ideal tho is less government.

lazs

[mosgood]

Originally posted by lazs2
so..  what exactly did she do that was considered a terrorist act?  How did that fall under the patriot act?  

and... How exactly do you feel about "hate crimes" moss?

when conservatives are in they kill SLA members... when liberals are in they kill a bunch of whacky church members and about 30 of their kids are roasted alive.

when liberals are in they create "hate crimes" when conservatives are in they create "terrorist" crimes..

so far... the lesser of two evils is the conservatives..  the  ideal tho is less government.

lazs

I feel that domestic "Hate crimes" have nothing to do with the patriot act or the reasons GWB gave for enacting it.  

I guess I should specify a little better my beef with the word "Terroristic".  I am afraid that the word "terrorist" or "Terroristic" is an oppurtunity for government and local police agencies to infringe on our rights of privacy.  Does that make me a liberal???   Laz.. you yourself promotes the right to bear arms for self defense as well as protection from an oppressive government.  Well, the right to certain personal privacies need, IMO, to be as jealously guarded as well.  And I DO NOT LIKE the way the word "Terrorist" can be used to justify infringment on them.... such as wire taps.... or the loss of right of due process.  Is this the case here??  NO, but LAZ...  you have your own concerns that if assualt rifles are banned, it's one step closer to an overall bane.  So you fight for every inch you got.  That's why I think that the use of the Patriot Act policies need to be watched like a hawk.

[SOB]

Nice rant, Mos, but this has nothing to do with Bush or his policies.  The quote was from the LA County Sheriff's office regarding what the lady was doing and what she's charged with, and unless you have some compelling evidence to the contrary she was terrorizing Catherine Zeta Jones for all you know.  You don't have to be from another country or even threaten the US to be a terrorist.

http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=terrorist&x=0&y=0
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
- ter·ror·ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
- ter·ror·is·tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective

[mosgood]

Originally posted by SOB
Nice rant, Mos, but this has nothing to do with Bush or his policies.  The quote was from the LA County Sheriff's office regardign what the lady was doing, and unless you have some compelling evidence to the contrary she was terrorizing Catherine Zeta Jones for all you know.  You don't have to be from another country or even threaten the US to be a terrorist.

http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=terrorist&x=0&y=0
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
- ter·ror·ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
- ter·ror·is·tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective

So... if this woman was terrorizing CZJ, should she be sent to cuba and held with the rest of the terrorist detained there (edit) without the right to do process?

[SOB]

Well, considering that isn't even relevant to this situation, I would say no.  Do you honestly believe that she'll soon be shipped off to Gitmo?  If so, I suggest you seek professional help.

Find another example, this one makes zero sense in connection with your rant.  The patriot act goes too far in my opinion, and the sooner Asscroft and Bush are replaced the better, but neither have anything to do with that story.  The woman terrorized someone, and has been charged - or do you think she should have just gotten a ticket for prank phone calls?

[mosgood]

What do you mean it's not relevant.  You posted the definition of the word.  Why post the definition, if it doesnt mean the same thing in both situations to you?

If this person is judged to be a "terrorist", what makes her different than the "terrorist" held in Cuba in your eyes?

[Dago]

Sheesh,

Where have you guys been all your lives?

The term "terroristics threats" has been around many many years, and is used by law enforcement to describe the action of a person threatening physical violence towards another, where the action could be considered possible by virtue of immediacy or location.

It is not new, has nothing to do with Bush, or labeling a person a terrorist, and was used long before 9/11.


I repeat,  Sheesh.


dago