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Offline rpm

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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2004, 07:51:54 PM »
It's a legal term thats been around for years.

Example: A Guy calls up his boss that has fired him and tells him to give him his job back or he will kick his prettythang.
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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2004, 08:32:33 PM »
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Your first question has been answered by others.  Your second question is just stupid.



SOB,

you have a very good flare for dismissing questions with off handed insults.  Either, you do not know what you believe or you are very young.  Sometimes its the same thing.  Hopefully, in your case as well.

My second question was not a statement that I believe she should be in cuba.  It was asked to determine IF there are differnt types of terrorists.  And if so, are they treated the same or different.  I do not want to see lawyers and police agencies take advantage of the slight differences (btw... that you still have failed to make) in how the word "Terrorist" is used.

Yeager... btw.. have you any clue wtf I said?

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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2004, 08:45:25 PM »
*Sigh*

Yes mosgood ... there are different meanings and usages for the word "terrorist." There are different legal aspects for each meaning and usage. No there is no true correlation between the woman charged for making "terrorist threats" to CZJ and the Cuban detainees. There is no correlation between this criminal law case and national security. There is no foundation for this to be used as an example of an oppressive government for either political or rhetorical purposes.

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« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2004, 08:39:37 AM »
moss.. we agree that big government is a bad thing.  I believe that big liberal government is far worse than big conservative govenrment is all.

I am not aware of any Americans who are being affected unconstitutionaly by the patriot act but.... every single person charged with a so called "hate crime" is losing his guarantee of equal treatment under the law.

huge sentances can be imposed  on people on a whim with "hate crime" laws...

I guess I would suffer better under big government intrusiveness while armed a lot better than big liberal government unarmed and driving a prius.

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« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2004, 08:49:08 AM »
Black's Law Dictionary defines "terroristic threat" as:

A threat to commit any crime of violence with the purpose of (1) terrorizing another, (2) causing the evacuation of a building, place of assembly or facility of public transportation, (3) causing serious public inconvenience or (4) recklessly disregarding the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience.

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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2004, 08:58:19 AM »
Yeager... btw.. have you any clue wtf I said?
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« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2004, 10:29:46 AM »
LOL Yeager :D

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« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2004, 10:52:34 AM »
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*Sigh*

Yes mosgood ... there are different meanings and usages for the word "terrorist." There are different legal aspects for each meaning and usage. No there is no true correlation between the woman charged for making "terrorist threats" to CZJ and the Cuban detainees. There is no correlation between this criminal law case and national security. There is no foundation for this to be used as an example of an oppressive government for either political or rhetorical purposes.


What he said.  I imagine that some LASO deputy screwed up and instead of saying she "terrorized" them or who knows what, said what he did.  I sincerely doubt that he means she is a terrorist in the Hamas sense of the word.  And the fact that any of you would jump to that conclusion in an effort to sling mud is...well, it's kinda stupid.

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« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2004, 11:26:20 AM »
Making "Terroristic Threats" has been a chargable offense for many years.  Why, even under Clinton you could be charged for that very crime :rolleyes:
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« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2004, 11:36:10 AM »
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I feel that domestic "Hate crimes" have nothing to do with the patriot act or the reasons GWB gave for enacting it.  

I guess I should specify a little better my beef with the word "Terroristic".  I am afraid that the word "terrorist" or "Terroristic" is an oppurtunity for government and local police agencies to infringe on our rights of privacy.  Does that make me a liberal???   Laz.. you yourself promotes the right to bear arms for self defense as well as protection from an oppressive government.  Well, the right to certain personal privacies need, IMO, to be as jealously guarded as well.  And I DO NOT LIKE the way the word "Terrorist" can be used to justify infringment on them.... such as wire taps.... or the loss of right of due process.  Is this the case here??  NO, but LAZ...  you have your own concerns that if assualt rifles are banned, it's one step closer to an overall bane.  So you fight for every inch you got.  That's why I think that the use of the Patriot Act policies need to be watched like a hawk.


Do you research anything or just try and push anything you find into a context that fits an anti-Bush agenda?  Again... the crime of making "Terroristic Threats" is an old one.  Get over it or plan on preaching against Clinton (at least) and maybe Kerry.

It's all in the wording, but in the end... a terroristic threat is a terroristic threat and should be dealt with accordingly.  I think it works something like this:

"If you do that to me again(whatever), I'll kill you" <<
"I'm going to kill you"<<
It's hard to explain, and I'm sure the the person being threatened has to show he or she really believe the threat to hold merit.  In any case... it's no GWB generated new thing.
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« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2004, 12:30:00 PM »
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Do you research anything or just try and push anything you find into a context that fits an anti-Bush agenda?  


That's a good question... why don't you pull up my posts and do a little research yourself.  There are things about Bush that I don't like, and there are issues that have been brought up about him that I've defended....  the same thing goes for the republicans and Democrats both.  


btw... if you guys don't find a better way to communicate a disagreement about an opinion, this board is gonna be nothing but griefing real quick.  I myself will be checking my own responses for now on just in case they come off as ****ty as some of you guys do on a regular basis.

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« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2004, 12:34:22 PM »
"teroristic threats" has been a legal term for years.  It has nothing to do with the WoT, or Bush.  You ladies need to get out more.