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Offline SOB

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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2004, 05:04:38 AM »
Uh huh.
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2004, 05:07:50 AM »
so you can't think of any reasons to hold a terrorist and not notify anyone? I can think of at least 3 good reasons off the top of my head.

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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2004, 05:15:57 AM »
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But the lefties here are just blind morons and full of carp.


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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2004, 05:20:40 AM »
I'll guess.

1.  so you there is no record that you have him, making it harder to link any illegal treatment he recieves to you.

2. because you have no respect for the law or think you are above it.

I'm sure I could think of more but those came fairly easy.
lets make the quiz a little harder.  how many LEGAL reasons can you think of.

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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2004, 05:31:03 AM »
So out of all the thousands of bad guys we have in custody we just hid this one guy so we could abuse him in secret?

Why?

I'm faaar more inclined to think his capture was kept secret for operational reasons. Maybe he was a good source of actinable real time intelligence maybe we used him to mislead other terrorists.

Though not a perfect analogy, it isnt like the allies in ww2 told everyone when they captured and converted a nazi spy to work for them. I guess they were war criminals too... Can we try churchil or maybe eisenhower for these crimes?


But yea thats all far too rational and logical.   No way.  Couldnt be..

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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2004, 05:56:48 AM »
If theres hidden prisoners in several prisons/camps whatever, how can it be limited to one person only :rolleyes:

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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2004, 06:06:28 AM »
IIRC, spy's don't receive that protection.

maybe they had their reasons for doing it, likely they had some sort of reason.

most criminals have a reason why they broke the law too.

obviously there can be certain advantages to keeping someones capture secret, and likely these types of advantages where know at the time these laws were made.

laws are made to clarify your acceptable course of action, and establish lits as to what is acceptable and how far you are allowed to go in an effort to accomplish your goals.

yes, war is an extreme situation which often requires extreme action.

  but since these laws are directly concerning which actions are legal or forbidden in times of war, it's reasonable to assume that you would be expected to obey them even if you were at war.

a law that you ignore when it becomes inconvenient isn't a law, it's a guideline or a suggestion.

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2004, 06:06:45 AM »
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If theres hidden prisoners in several prisons/camps whatever, how can it be limited to one person only :rolleyes:


Maybe we should have you investigate first hand..

Really arent you guys taking an awful big risk coming out like this in criticizm of Bush?  I mean if he is even 1/10 as bad as you say shouldnt you be worried for the safety of you and your families?

You never know when they will come knocking on your door in the middle of the night to take you away to secret police prison camps..

Be careful now... Be very careful.. They are coming for you. You dont have much time, say goodbye to your families. Its all over!

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2004, 06:08:52 AM »
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IIRC, spy's don't receive that protection.


Why not?

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2004, 06:56:56 AM »
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I can thinkof several reasons for holding a terrorist POS and not registering him.


If he's terrorist, I don't care if they take him behind the tent and shoot him in the back of his head.

However, how do we know he's a terrorist?  They just released hundreds of innocent guys, guys who had been terrorized by us while we attempted to extract confessions.

Frankly, I wouldn't trust anyone Bush has in authority over control of POWs.  So yeah, registration of all prisoners must be done --- otherwise, they're going to be painting me and you (John Q. Public) with the same paintbrush that was just applied to Rumsfeld and the Gen in charge of the prison.

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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2004, 08:34:44 AM »
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LOL, a comparison to the German SS, that's fantastically retarded.

As for that prisoner, is there any reasonable explanation as to why they wouldn't inform the Red Cross?


They didnt say that they wouldnt inform red cross...

"Director George Tenet asked him last November to take custody of an Iraqi national "

.. Tenet went away as hero and now it time to throw few bones on somebody.

I expect to hear a lot more bad thinks about him, w/o any proof.

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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2004, 08:37:18 AM »
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If he's terrorist, I don't care if they take him behind the tent and shoot him in the back of his head.
 


chmm what a nice result of anti terrorist propaganda

Since most of people thing like you, the only one thing that must be done is to mark some as terrorist and problem is over.

Its nice to see that you didnt ate that crap at all.

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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2004, 08:41:11 AM »
WOW more sympothy for terrorists

I petter go get my SS uniform to the cleaners now.

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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2004, 08:47:13 AM »
TERRORISTS HAVE RIGHTS TOO ya know.

and the red cross wants the us to release Hussein if he is not charged with any crime.
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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2004, 08:48:59 AM »
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hehe its wrong hand isnt it :D