Sorry I missed that check 6 call

[oboe]

to whoever it was this morning; I had just pulled out of a barely- controllable dive in my P-40 and found myself 200 yds away from the La-7 and closing way too fast - I was trying for a split second gun solution while avoiding the imminent collision, all while trying to comprehend what,  "Dad, you gotta see what I did with the microwave!"  that my 10 yr old was trying to tell me over my shoulder meant.     I had to run and check the microwave so someone got an AFK kill on me but I didn't get back in time to see who it was.

Having said that, calling me a "fediddleing salamander" over vox because you didn't get a 6 call from me was way, way out of line.     My son was right there when you said that.   Not cool at all.

[Shane]

forced (range) vox is evil.  more even than the previously "forced" ch1.

but then you could always turn vox off. or use headphones. or... or... or...

it's my understanding much worse goes over vox than ever has on ch1. ymmv.

[Flossy]

The sad fact is that this is an all-too-common occurrence these days, and it really sickens me to read that young children are around to hear these outbursts.  I get fed up of hearing people complain about not getting a Check6, as if it is everybody's fault but their own that they got shot down!  More often than not it is their own lack of SA which is the problem.  If I get shot down, the only person I ever blame is myself.

[Kweassa]

On the other hand, some people don't give out check-6s when they should. Ofcourse, it's not a legal matter or anything, but..

 There are innocent victims of accusation like oboe, but there are other instances.

 Like, every time I fly and see an enemy plane closing behind me, I keep quite and scan around who gives me a 6-call. Many good people do give me calls, but every now and then, I see a bad guy behind me at about 1.0, and I see a friendly behind him at something like 2.0. I wait for the 6-call, see when he's gonna give it to me.

 Nope, zip, zilch, nada.

 And then I go into an overshoot maneuver. And I try to give that guy a killshooter.

"oops, sorry. I didn't know you were there. I'd have known if you had given me a check-6 that you were chasing that boget."

[Paxil]

Dang... a check six is a gift, not a right.  Cracks me up people flying in a furball get mad about not getting a check six... 1) like we were not busy enough checking our own, and 2) they were not aware there were 15 enemy planes buzzing around.  It is your responsibility to check you own six. I give calls when I can, and have been saved many times by them, but I don't expect someone else to be responsible for watching my six.  Like oboe, I have been cursed at when my mic doesn't work or being AFK, looking somewhere else etc... System should auto squelch someone for a minute after their death. =)  Anyway... I just wish we had a permanent squech list so you could decrease the chance of it happening.

[MaddogWx]

I agree 100% Paxil

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Kweassa
On the other hand, some people don't give out check-6s when they should. Ofcourse, it's not a legal matter or anything, but..

 There are innocent victims of accusation like oboe, but there are other instances.

 Like, every time I fly and see an enemy plane closing behind me, I keep quite and scan around who gives me a 6-call. Many good people do give me calls, but every now and then, I see a bad guy behind me at about 1.0, and I see a friendly behind him at something like 2.0. I wait for the 6-call, see when he's gonna give it to me.

 Nope, zip, zilch, nada.

 And then I go into an overshoot maneuver. And I try to give that guy a killshooter.

"oops, sorry. I didn't know you were there. I'd have known if you had given me a check-6 that you were chasing that boget."

I never expect a check 6 call. You have issues if you scan around for people to give you check 6 calls.

The other day I tried to help you out when I was in a VERY fast pony and you where on the deck. I made a pass at the slow plane and pulled up to come back around. I was going FAST just to get down to you and couldn't just turn on a dime. All I got for trying to help you was a complaint.

You complained that no one helped you and that you woudn't be helping anyone of us from now on.

Some people are such babies.

[Morpheus]

A whine about not getting a Check 6 is a lame wussy cop-out excuse for poor S/A.

Whine on wussys':aok

[Murdr]

I agree ch6s are a gift.  There is one complaint worthy non-ch6 in my book though.  Thats the one where 3-6 friendlies are on 1 enemy that is out of your reach anyways.  And later when you're saddled up in your own fight those same 3-6 friendlies watch as that same 1 enemy cherry picks you.  Cod I hate ineffective friendlies

Doesnt everyone use headphones?

[FT_Animal]

Originally posted by Flossy
The sad fact is that this is an all-too-common occurrence these days, and it really sickens me to read that young children are around to hear these outbursts.  I get fed up of hearing people complain about not getting a Check6, as if it is everybody's fault but their own that they got shot down!  More often than not it is their own lack of SA which is the problem.  If I get shot down, the only person I ever blame is myself.

The ones who whine about no check6 calls, are ones who SA abilites suck.

I REALLY hate to break it to people,........ But,...,..... each and EVERY time you get shot down it's because you do not use SA properly and put yourslef in a position to die. Somewhere along the line your SA on your 6 failed. You should always fly as if you are solo, watch your own damn 6.

If someone DOES give you a check 6 call it's because they see your practice of SA on your own 6 isn't very good.

The only reason anyone gets on your 6 is because somewhere a long the line you allowed them to be there.

Instead of whining about no check 6 calls, trying using the whine time to learn better SA and ACM.

Really a pathedic conversation to even exist.

What, you can't fly your own plane, so you expect someone to fly their plane and yours too>?

Anim

[DREDIOCK]

Funny thing. for the longest while most of the check 6's I was getting were ones from people who mistakingly thought the bogie I was chasing was really chasing me.

[WilldCrd]

Originally posted by Kweassa
On the other hand, some people don't give out check-6s when they should. Ofcourse, it's not a legal matter or anything, but..

 There are innocent victims of accusation like oboe, but there are other instances.

 Like, every time I fly and see an enemy plane closing behind me, I keep quite and scan around who gives me a 6-call. Many good people do give me calls, but every now and then, I see a bad guy behind me at about 1.0, and I see a friendly behind him at something like 2.0. I wait for the 6-call, see when he's gonna give it to me.

 Nope, zip, zilch, nada.

 And then I go into an overshoot maneuver. And I try to give that guy a killshooter.

"oops, sorry. I didn't know you were there. I'd have known if you had given me a check-6 that you were chasing that boget."

I believe steve coined the term sloberdonkey for thos that fail to give a chk6 while chasing the con chasing you

[Paxil]

If you are aware enough to see a friendly, see the enemy that is shooting you down... why would you need a check 6 call?

[Xargos]

Originally posted by Paxil
Dang... a check six is a gift, not a right.

I agree.  I get shot down all the time and don't get angry when I don't get a check6.  But I do get angry when someone gives me a check6 so they can steal my kill.

[Zanth]

This topic was titled about a check 6 call when it seems the actual subject in the author's mind was the message said over range vox.

Range vox is pretty bad, and as mentioned somewhere above, unavoidable.  Language can be, and often is, a lot worse than Channel 1 ever was.