Author Topic: Slat sound (Read 1557 times)

GScholz · « **Reply #30 on:** June 23, 2004, 09:28:19 AM »

It's just that Carson has been quoted so many times, and he was wrong in much of his conclusions. I guess I've grown a dislike for the man (me being a 109 fan and all).

ergRTC · « **Reply #31 on:** June 23, 2004, 09:33:33 AM »

Hard not to be a fan of 109s, just wish they had better high speed handling. One of my favorite (get the 109g10 off my arse) moves in ah2 is split S twice and watch them barrel into the earth in a state of complete blacked out compression.

GScholz · « **Reply #32 on:** June 23, 2004, 09:40:18 AM »

Hehe ... yes you'd better resist the urge to follow split-s' if you're fast in a 109. I prefer just to zoom up in an Immelmann. That way I'm above and going in the same direction ... with plenty E to spare. The 109 is a great E fighter ... I love it!

LLv34_Camouflage · « **Reply #33 on:** June 23, 2004, 10:16:56 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
I also see you asked about the flaps. They were electrical on the 109 and 190, so was the gear (and trim on the 190).

The flaps were manual in the 109, operated with a wheel, which was on the left side of the seat. The elevator trim wheel was right next to the flap wheel. This way the pilot could turn both wheels, trimming while lowering the flaps.

Here's a picture showing the wheel: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/bf109cockpit/CockpitPortMap.html

Camo

GScholz · « **Reply #34 on:** June 23, 2004, 10:23:27 AM »

Thanks. I stand corrected.

ergRTC · « **Reply #35 on:** June 23, 2004, 10:33:12 AM »

wow, that thing must be geared to hell, how many rotations do you think it would take to lower the flaps? That little wheel with that little surface to grab, maybe it was power assisted?

Grits · « **Reply #36 on:** June 23, 2004, 11:46:10 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech
GScholz is correct: Speed is Irelevent as long as you a fast enough to have the force to push the slats back. Note when your stoped they just hang, as you start moving they retract. But that speed is well below stall speed.

A bit of an aside, the A-4 Skyhawk had the same type of slats as these WWII planes. My dad flew A-4's, so I asked him if the way AHII models them is accurate and he said "Yup, thats exactly how they really work. That game has that much detail? Interesting."

I forgot to ask him if he could hear them when they would extend or retract, but he was pretty impressed with the level of detail in the FM of AHII.

Tilt · « **Reply #37 on:** June 23, 2004, 12:20:58 PM »

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Originally posted by LLv34_Camouflage
The flaps were manual in the 109, operated with a wheel, which was on the left side of the seat.

So can we deploy the AH 109 flaps quicker than was actually possible?

J_A_B · « **Reply #38 on:** June 23, 2004, 12:52:30 PM »

"So can we deploy the AH 109 flaps quicker than was actually possible?"

Yup.

If improper flap operation is what you're worried about, the F6F is about the most blatantly wrong (unless it's been fixed in the last couple versions)--the F6F could only operate its flaps as up or down, not incremented as it could in AH.

J_A_B

GScholz · « **Reply #39 on:** June 24, 2004, 05:56:52 AM »

The F6F-5 didn't have combat flaps?

Wmaker · « **Reply #40 on:** June 24, 2004, 09:03:45 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
I also see you asked about the flaps. They were electrical on the 109 and 190, so was the gear

Gear in the 109 was operated by hydraulics.

J_A_B · « **Reply #41 on:** June 24, 2004, 12:50:40 PM »

"The F6F-5 didn't have combat flaps?"

No. It did not. Its flaps worked basically like the spitfire's do---either up, or down. The flap control in the cockpit gave the pilot no ability to select anything in-between.

This is confirmed by the F6F-5's manual, if you want to look it up.

J_A_B

moot · « **Reply #42 on:** June 24, 2004, 12:56:41 PM »

that's going to suck...

Tilt · « **Reply #43 on:** June 24, 2004, 12:59:54 PM »

Well the Lavochkins were operated by a 5 port valve so they could be set to any increment............ to duplicate that AH would have the flap opening for only that period that the button was pressed.......same with closing.

Delirium · « **Reply #44 on:** June 24, 2004, 05:18:36 PM »

While we are on the subject of slats, I never realized the 262 has slats between the engine nacelle and the fuselage as it does in AH2. Is this accurate?