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« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2004, 06:20:03 PM »
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So when is Canada holding warcrimes trials for their bomber pilots in WW2?

By your reasoning above they were no different than the Nazis who deliberatly murdered innocent Jews in the camps.


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I watched The Fog of War - Eleven Lessons from the life of Robert S. McNamara yesterday, and there was an interesting discussion about lesson 5: PROPORTIONALITY SHOULD BE A GUIDELINE IN WAR, where McNamara talked about Curtis LeMay, the atomic bombs, and the fire bombing of Tokyo (and Japan).
And he came basically to the conclusion that the morality involved with the killing of 100,000 japanese civilians in one night depends realistically on whether you looking from the victors or the losers point of view...

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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2004, 06:46:38 PM »
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you tryin to tell me the US HASN'T bombed innocent civilians.....

2 way street

p.s. whats the difference tween seeing some1 gettin his head chopped off and some1 blown to bits by a missile


Canadian bomber pilots in WW2 targeted undesirable civilan populations for extermination just like the nazis did in the death camps. Canada commited genocide in WW2, just like Nazi Germany.

No different?

Right?

When do the war crimes trials begin?

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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2004, 06:59:27 PM »
what is it with these canadians anyway?  are they all this goofy are did the bbs just get a whacked out sample?
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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2004, 07:03:31 PM »
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what is it with these canadians anyway?  are they all this goofy are did the bbs just get a whacked out sample?


What do you expect from a country of unrepentant war crimnals?

Germany owned up to her crimes, why not Canada? Why not?

Right? I mean the canadian SLO himself said there is no moral difference?


Really SLO are you so friggen wound up in your hatreds that you see no difference between terrorists deliberatly decapitating innocent people and the great lengths the USA deliberatly goes to avoid accidental civilan deaths in wartrime?

Are you that sick?
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« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2004, 07:06:33 PM »
Lol you idiots. :rofl

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« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2004, 07:41:48 PM »
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Lol you idiots. :rofl


*sits next to Nash and shares a couple of Molson Export!:)

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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2004, 08:07:32 PM »
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What do you expect from a country of unrepentant war crimnals?

Germany owned up to her crimes, why not Canada? Why not?

Right? I mean the canadian SLO himself said there is no moral difference?


Really SLO are you so friggen wound up in your hatreds that you see no difference between terrorists deliberatly decapitating innocent people and the great lengths the USA deliberatly goes to avoid accidental civilan deaths in wartrime?

Are you that sick?


like Germany...like the USA...we gave them Medals and said job well done

as for wound up hatred....again thats your perception....lucky I got my own....

one of which differs from yours by a complete infinite universe.....guess we live in different dimensions

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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2004, 09:00:47 PM »
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like Germany...like the USA...we gave them Medals and said job well done



Well there he said it... He sees no moral difference between nazi germany and the western allies in WW2...

And yes, thank god we are in a different dimesnion...

So any of you who have parents or grandparents who served in the western allied armies in WW2 you can thank SLO for his consideration of them as equals to SS concentartion camp executioners.

SLO you are a sick little man.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2004, 09:03:37 PM by GRUNHERZ »

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« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2004, 09:08:47 PM »
talk about puttin words in someone's mouth....

job well done grun....

1st you talk about pilots and then you switch to nazi SS camp freaks.....

and BTW....not all german soldiers where nutcases like you....actually some of them where very good.

oh ya...that was 60 years ago....christ I have trouble remembering yesterday:rofl

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« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2004, 09:09:25 PM »
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culled from CNN:

"Zarqawi vows to kill Iraqi premier, carry on jihad against West 'until Islamic rule is back on Earth'..."
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Here we go again......another visionary for planet earth.


If that is the common islamic view, then why are the troops still in Iraq?

That Zarqawi guy is not only a terrorist, hes a war criminal. Modren day war = capturing civilians and executing them. They need to get Zarqawi also. As for Osama, well think about it. If Zarqawi can be active in the middle east, what does that say for Osamas where abouts and activities. There are alot of terrorists/groups out there.

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« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2004, 09:11:54 PM »
And my own opinion on the leader of Iraq. Of course I (Im sure many people do) expect an eventually attempt on his life. I would think that the people in charge have extras ready to replace him right.

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« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2004, 09:29:45 PM »
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talk about puttin words in someone's mouth....

job well done grun....

1st you talk about pilots and then you switch to nazi SS camp freaks.....

and BTW....not all german soldiers where nutcases like you....actually some of them where very good.

oh ya...that was 60 years ago....christ I have trouble remembering yesterday:rofl


Dont weazel out of it now you sick little man....

You made your point clearly enough...

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« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2004, 10:27:50 PM »
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Canadian bomber pilots in WW2 targeted undesirable civilan populations for extermination just like the nazis did in the death camps. Canada commited genocide in WW2, just like Nazi Germany.

No different?

Right?

When do the war crimes trials begin?


Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki.................

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« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2004, 12:29:37 AM »
Nice try pei.  

Perhaps had the japanese invaded your country and brutalized you granmother and grandfather like they originally intended you would be singing a differne tune.  

But oh.....no.  Saved by the Queen and Uncle sam yo are so privilidged to sit there in restrospect and declare your saviors as war criminals because you are all high and mighty.

What a waste of time you turned out to be
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« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2004, 12:44:10 AM »
Damn, this thread deserves some special olympics awards.

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