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Offline xrtoronto

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« Reply #60 on: June 24, 2004, 06:03:42 PM »
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... they force the west to side with Isreal.  Crumpp


do some more reading crump

not even 2 months ago....

Kofi Annan's Top Envoy
Calls Israel 'The Great Poison'

the story (for those of you who 'forgot')
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« Reply #61 on: June 24, 2004, 06:44:30 PM »
LOL

Do some reading? How about I go back to the Middle East?

Guess you've never seen the innocent people killed in bus stops, disco's, resturante's, and malls in Isreal?

Again BOTH sides have legitimate gripes and it could on forever.   Question is when will both sides have shed enough blood that peace is better than war?

I was speaking of HAMAS and other terrorist groups breed sympathy for Isreal.  People will always be more sympathetic to someone who is losing thier children over someone who is losing a plot of ground.  

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« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2004, 06:55:06 PM »
well since you feel that way crump, give me your address and i'll come down there and kick your fat prettythang out of your house and move in myself? as you say, it's ONLY land?;)
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« Reply #63 on: June 24, 2004, 06:56:55 PM »
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Ah so the the Japanese actually managed to land in the USA then... let me check my history books......


Check the chapter on Attu and Adak and the Aleutian campaign.
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« Reply #64 on: June 24, 2004, 07:21:25 PM »
LMAO!


You are welcome to try.  I think you would be unpleasantly suprised at just how far off you are in your assesment of me.

Facts are the world will always be more sympathetic to those losing their lives over those losing land.  Palestine would have been an independant country a long time ago had they taken a different approach to solving their problems.  Look at India.  

In fact many in the west see them as cry babies who are never satisfied and only bent on the destruction of Isreal even if it means their destruction too.  Palestinians have only themselves to blame for that.  When they grow tired of these fanatics then the world will be more sympathetic to their land loss.  No one is going to say you are justified in killing children to get some land back.  

HAMAS and it's supporters are bent on one thing - the genocide of all non-muslims and only widen the gulf between the Palestinians and the rest of the civilized world.  That is a fact stated right in the HAMAS manifesto. The fact they travel openly in Palestinian occuppied territory only weakens Palestinian credibility in the eyes of the world leaving the Palestinians with no hope, except HAMAS.  And the cycle goes round.

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« Reply #65 on: June 24, 2004, 07:22:26 PM »
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I have read about half of this thread.


Couple of points I want to make:

7.  The Arab-Isreali conflict is deep and murkey.  Both sides are elbow deep in blood and IMO niether is innocent.  However the world cannot stand by and allow suicide bombers who attack innocent civilians to win.  If Palestinians had adopted peaceful non-violent protest measures their is NO doubt in my mind they would have their own country by now.  The Western World would not have stood for Isreali tanks against peaceful protest.  Other places in the world, maybe, but not a country with as close a ties to the US/Europe as Isreal. The Palestinians are their own worst enemy in this conflict. For they force the west to side with Isreal.  

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the "west" is on our side? really? oh wow, thats great. and all this time i was sure that all those anti israeli pro palestinian stories on the europian press was because they didnt like our "side".

i guess you learn new things every day

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« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2004, 07:24:52 PM »
No Flyboy I would say we are neutral but share a common problem.  Terrorist's.


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« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2004, 07:25:58 PM »
However the vast majority of Americans are very sympathetic towards Isreal for the reasons stated above.


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« Reply #68 on: June 24, 2004, 07:34:48 PM »
yes well, the west divide  in to yuuuurop and the usa.

lucky for us the decision making side of the west ( i wont say who :rolleyes: ) is supportive


allso sorry for my attitude. its 3:30 am here and i am working my prettythang of to finish this huuuuuuuuuge biotechnology project i need for tomarow.

and then..............FREEDOM
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« Reply #69 on: June 24, 2004, 07:43:51 PM »
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i am working my prettythang of to finish this huuuuuuuuuge biotechnology project i need for tomarow.


hehe...the first thing i thought of when i read the above was 2 rather large breast implants!:D

good luck on the project!
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« Reply #70 on: June 24, 2004, 08:03:25 PM »
Yeah No doubt Flyboy!


Good Luck on it and be careful taking the bus!!

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« Reply #71 on: June 24, 2004, 08:31:02 PM »
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well since you feel that way crump, give me your address and i'll come down there and kick your fat prettythang out of your house and move in myself? as you say, it's ONLY land?;)


When you get a chance go look at crumpp's photo at the JG3 website.  Then if you are still of the same opinion post your trip down so we can watch.  Of course you probably have no way of knowing that crumpp is part of the cutting edge of American will.  One of the guys who takes the trouble out of the world's trouble spots.
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« Reply #72 on: June 24, 2004, 08:59:18 PM »
....you made my point: a man's land is worth fighting for if it is being taken from you!
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« Reply #73 on: June 24, 2004, 09:15:12 PM »
Your right it is worth fighting for....

the measure of man and his character is in HOW the fight is waged.  

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« Reply #74 on: June 24, 2004, 09:16:09 PM »
CON FIGHT - CON FIGHT - CON FIGHT!!
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