Author Topic: Congrats USA (Read 523 times)

Nilsen · « **on:** June 23, 2004, 01:42:07 PM »

U.S. drops resolution seeking war crimes exemption

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/23/us.war.crimes.court.ap/index.html

Its a step i know alot of you wont like, but it is a good thing. Nobody should be allowed to be above international laws.

lazs2 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2004, 02:48:34 PM »

if we are a signator to an international law then we should abide by it.. that is why it is so important for us to not sign on to international government and courts.

lazs

Nilsen · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2004, 02:53:22 PM »

well....its getting signed.

Otto · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2004, 02:53:27 PM »

It's not about being 'above the law'. And the reasons we did not sign have been explained many, many, many times.

Yeager · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2004, 02:54:26 PM »

absolutely lasz. The rest of the world wants us by the balls.

Europe and Asia would love to see us fail.

1K0N · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2004, 02:54:27 PM »

If this means that signing the Agreement will reduce our involvment in world peace keeping then WOOhoo where do we sign!!!

IKON

AKIron · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2004, 02:56:01 PM »

The US will certainly recognize any legitimate claims of war crimes while at the same time resisting any illegitimate claims. We'll probably reserve for ourselves the right to judge the merits of the claims as well.

Nilsen · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2004, 02:56:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Europe and Asia would love to see us fail.

getting abit paranoid are we?

Rafe35 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2004, 03:00:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
absolutely lasz. The rest of the world wants us by the balls.

Europe and Asia would love to see us fail.

I think I agree with you about Europe and Asia would love to see us fail, also include Russia would love to see us fail.

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2004, 03:00:20 PM »

nope nielsen... pretty simple really... we will by into fair and logical laws that govern all men if we feel they are just but...

sorry to tell you... we will not buy into the whole international law and court thing or any socialist one world view.

lazs

Nilsen · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2004, 03:12:31 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
nope nielsen... pretty simple really... we will by into fair and logical laws that govern all men if we feel they are just but...

sorry to tell you... we will not buy into the whole international law and court thing or any socialist one world view.

lazs

So, you will "help" the world your way, but if you have to follow international laws you wont/cant cause you know you will break them?

makes sense.

-tronski- · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2004, 03:14:04 PM »

I don't see the issue....don't do "war crimes" and there's no problem is there..

I think it's a quite admirable thing the US dropped this resolution, rather than threaten or cajole the UN-SC like a petulant child

Tronsky

Otto · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2004, 03:27:55 PM »

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Originally posted by -tronski-
I don't see the issue....don't do "war crimes" and there's no problem is there..

Tronsky

Torn,

Was it a 'War Crime' when US forces killed over 600 Somalia's in Mogadishu?

-tronski- · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2004, 03:33:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Otto
Torn,

Was it a 'War Crime' when US forces killed over 600 Somalia's in Mogadishu?

No, why would have it been?

Tronsky

Fishu · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2004, 03:43:53 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
if we are a signator to an international law then we should abide by it.. that is why it is so important for us to not sign on to international government and courts.

lazs

and that would in turn weaken US position in telling other countries that they're bad.
How could you say some foreign country is being bad when they torture people, if US does the same?
or how could you say some war doesnt have basis, when US does the same?

US credibility is on the stake here.

If they aren't part of international treaties/laws, then they will have a harder time to make wars, without having a bad impact in imago.
Also it would in turn be like USSR in the eyes of other world.
...and I guess you remember how unwanted the commies were?