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Offline Toad

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« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2004, 12:05:11 PM »
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No pay for it in norway  


TANSTAAFL.

SOMEBODY is paying. Unless maybe the school buildings grew out of the ground, the utilities are free, the teachers work for free and they give away the books.

I suggest it may be your taxpayers.
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« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2004, 12:55:34 PM »
But ofcourse toad :) tax is horrible and really suck me dry. (not income tax) but the other we have in norway.
the drunks and smokers pay our shcools. (and car drivers lol) :D
could it really be better ?
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I am a Norwegian eating my fish, and still let my wife mess me around in stupid shops...

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« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2004, 01:38:10 PM »
I guess we all have our socialist limits. The thought of extending high school to age 22 and calling it college just doesnt sit right with me.

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« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2004, 01:47:39 PM »
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Yes, it's pretty much Mr. Clinton's army. Although starting in 2000, military spending increased significantly.

The one that everyone keeps saying is "short of troopers".

From 1990 to about 1998, the active Army ranks were reduced from 770,000 to 495,000. The Army was cut to 10 active combat divisions compared to the 18 it had at the start of Operation Desert Storm in 1991.


Pretty short sited of Clinton since he knew the Neo cons would need the same sized army to wage thier preemptive wars as was needed in the cold war.

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« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2004, 02:00:36 PM »
Pongo,

You ever get your information from
anywhere but NPR, CNN or 60 Minutes?

You're in the grip of propagandists!

Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Truth!

BTW, the extent of Clinton's 'vision' was never
more than the next election.  Thats the difference
between consummate politicians like your pal
Bill and Statesmen like President George Bush.
Politicians only concern themselves with the
next election while statesmen concern
themselves with the next generation.

Politicians: think and act on their own behalf.
Statemen: think and act on their nation's behalf.

May God Bless George Bush and the United States!
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« Reply #65 on: June 25, 2004, 02:35:22 PM »
Pretty short sighted when you still claim and war plan to maintain the ability to fight two major wars simultaneously.
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« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2004, 03:00:42 PM »
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Pongo,

You ever get your information from
anywhere but NPR, CNN or 60 Minutes?

You're in the grip of propagandists!

Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Truth!

BTW, the extent of Clinton's 'vision' was never
more than the next election.  Thats the difference
between consummate politicians like your pal
Bill and Statesmen like President George Bush.
Politicians only concern themselves with the
next election while statesmen concern
themselves with the next generation.

Politicians: think and act on their own behalf.
Statemen: think and act on their nation's behalf.

May God Bless George Bush and the United States!


Someone did one too many jumps without a helmet...

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« Reply #67 on: June 25, 2004, 03:08:33 PM »
in his Ratel.  ;)
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« Reply #68 on: June 25, 2004, 03:19:23 PM »
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President George Bush.... statesmen concern
themselves with the next generation.


I wonder if there will BE a next generation with four more years with him inoffice.

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Politicians: think and act on their own behalf.
Statemen: think and act on their nation's behalf.


I thought he was acting on God's behalf, or at least on His orders...

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« Reply #69 on: June 25, 2004, 03:20:24 PM »
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Someone did one too many jumps without a helmet...


Truth hurts when your only input is misinformed foreign opinion lol
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« Reply #70 on: June 25, 2004, 03:22:34 PM »
Straccop. Thanks for your concern. I glad you been fed or concocted a version of reality that makes you comfortable.
I am not so much interested in comfort as honesty.

But to each their own.

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« Reply #71 on: June 25, 2004, 08:15:47 PM »
Pongo,  I would sign-up for infantry, but there is only problem, i was born to fly and thats exactly what i plan on doing, and if i cant fly the plane my-self then i will be behind the pilot and guide the bombs or missiles to the terrorist's butt holes.:aok

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« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2004, 01:08:00 AM »
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in his Ratel.  ;)


One jumps off a Ratel, not in a Ratel - I have a funnny looking knee to prove this...

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« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2004, 01:10:43 AM »
I had this image of you zooming along in your Ratel, taking the "jumps" at speed and banging your helmetless head on the steel overhead.

That isn't what you were talking about?
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« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2004, 01:18:42 AM »
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Pongo,  I would sign-up for infantry, but there is only problem, i was born to fly and thats exactly what i plan on doing, and if i cant fly the plane my-self then i will be behind the pilot and guide the bombs or missiles to the terrorist's butt holes.:aok


Maye Im wrong but I dont think its as simple as saying "Im gonna join the airforce and fly"
Dont they haveta test you and decide if they want you flying or even in the air at all for that matter. THEN send you to annapolis or someplace like that?

Hell you could end up just being a "PLO" under "the best Dang Saagent in the whooole dang aieerforce"
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