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Offline GRUNHERZ

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Hello, HTC Why fuel can't be porked under 75%???
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2004, 07:04:22 AM »
twitchy is you are so against flying then why not just go cancel your account?

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2004, 07:06:48 AM »
Now there's a relevant and informed opinion...
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Hello, HTC Why fuel can't be porked under 75%???
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2004, 07:09:29 AM »
I have logged off on occasions in AH1 because all frontline bases fuel being porked.  

I'm so happy i'll never have to experience this in AHII.:)
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2004, 07:19:43 AM »
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Originally posted by twitchy
What you mean like the Ammo bunkers, Troops, Fighter Hangars, and everything else on bases?  :rofl


Yeah, as a matter of fact, that is EXACTLY what I mean.

I understand that creating each individual base from scratch with at least some differences in layout creates a lot more work.
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2004, 07:23:34 AM »
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Uh that is exactly the point of porking the fuel...
:rolleyes:

Those "idiots" you refer to just might be Pigs On The Wing Special Ops... :aok


Want to stop them from flying? Then shoot them down. That is, after all, the object of the game.

If your idea of "special ops" is to suicide pork and auger fuel to stop people from flying, then I guess the title fits pretty well.

And those of us who like to fly are real happy they took the option of porking fuel to 25% by suicide away.
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2004, 07:35:16 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2004, 07:42:03 AM »
Infact its very easy to take out the FH's on the new small and medium fields.

75% lower limit was added at a time that allowed it to balance the new fuel model and a chosen FBM of 2.00. Whilst also substantially removing fuel as a strat critical resource.
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2004, 07:48:24 AM »
If I were HiTech, I'd just quit reading these boards.  People didn't like night and complained about it.  Once night was turned off, people started complaining about not having it.

Same goes here.  People have complained about fuel porking.  HT turned down the amount of porking (not that much when you consider the increased fuel consumption) and now people are complaining about that.

Pick a subject to complain about and if HT changes it, somebody else will complain about the change.

Sheesh!  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2004, 08:02:37 AM »
Bishops - we've been banged. The very fact that we can be banged suggest that:

a) it's not impossible to take bases. Knights and Rooks have proven that it's possible.

b) new game, new tactics. Time to learn new tricks.

I for one won't criticize the base/strat porking model until I've  played a lot longer.

BUT I will say this - Fuel shortages were a real aspect of warfare. Making them irrelevant is gamey, but as I'm sure in the posts to follow someone will point out that AH2 is a game.

Ghi 's criticism is valid. HTC is going to need to keep tweaking the game - if we don't raise issues like this we'll all be unhappy. His was a good post. Some of the mental excrement that followed his post is typical of the horde mentality in the M.A.

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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2004, 08:05:19 AM »
muhahahahaha!!!! :rofl

Geez, ghi, twitchy just learn to play the "new" setup my man.  That's all it takes.

Anyway, all kidding aside, think of it this way... Having 75% fuel on AH2 with the new engine management modelling with a burn rate of 2.0 has probably the same effect as having 25% fuel on AH1.  True, having 75% fuel may allow you to fly longer, distance-wise and duration wise at reduced throttle than compared to 25% fuel on AH1, but there is a severe "penalty" for that on AH2... the guy cannot climb as fast as he did on AH1, at least it will make him work more to get the desired effect.  Easy target... Shoot him down.  Is this explanation clear enough?:D

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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2004, 08:08:49 AM »
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You have to adjust to maybe hitting FH's instead. On small fields 1 buff form. can easily take out all 3 FH's in 1 run.


...........Accomplishing just the opposite of the desired effect. :D
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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2004, 09:25:05 AM »
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muhahahahaha!!!! :rofl

Geez, ghi, twitchy just learn to play the "new" setup my man.  That's all it takes.

Anyway, all kidding aside, think of it this way... Having 75% fuel on AH2 with the new engine management modelling with a burn rate of 2.0 has probably the same effect as having 25% fuel on AH1.  True, having 75% fuel may allow you to fly longer, distance-wise and duration wise at reduced throttle than compared to 25% fuel on AH1, but there is a severe "penalty" for that on AH2... the guy cannot climb as fast as he did on AH1, at least it will make him work more to get the desired effect.  Easy target... Shoot him down.  Is this explanation clear enough?:D

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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2004, 09:53:08 AM »
The enemy is still flying, even after I destroyed all their buildings! What should I do?!

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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2004, 09:56:43 AM »
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The enemy is still flying, even after I destroyed all their buildings! What should I do?!


Shoot 'em down. That's why they put those guns on yer plane.
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Hello, HTC Why fuel can't be porked under 75%???
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2004, 09:59:54 AM »
Never cared for fuel porkers - the important targets, as already mentioned, are the ordnance and troops.  But then I also never cared for this whole "winning the war" business and the behavior it encourages.