Hello, HTC Why fuel can't be porked under 75%???

[Virage]

The supreme excellence is to subdue the armies of your enemies without even having to fight them.
– Sun Tzu

Taking out barracks but leaving fuel alone essentially takes out a large group of nmy players to doing nothing more than sight see.

If fuel is destroyed, all those players will create a new horde somewhere else.

Let them waste their time by flying around one of your bases hoping to get a vulch.  and attack them somewhere else.

This new system also fixes the frustration of capturing a base only to wait 2 hours to use it if it is an nmy zone.

[Engine]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Shoot 'em down. That's why they put those guns on yer plane.

But.... but... doesn't that mean I have to spend some time learning how to win in a fight?  That's too hard, all I wanna do is compress my loaded P38 into enemy fuel!

[vorticon]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Shoot 'em down. That's why they put those guns on yer plane.

sig material right there...

[Wurger]

Also note that if in real warfare fuel were damaged at a base, that does not mean that all the planes there have to take less fuel, in fact, they would likely keep their normal or mission required fuel load and put up a few less planes, as there is no point in sending out more planes with less fuel so that none of them have the fuel they need.  The 75% fuel pork gives the porkers some benefit for their efforts while still keeping the realistic option of putting planes up that have enough fuel to do something.  If you want a better system, then it would be that when you pork fuel, then that would limit the number of planes able to take off from that base based on the amount of fuel left available, and the amount that each plane takes.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts :
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Shoot 'em down. That's why they put those guns on yer plane.
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Originally posted by vorticon
sig material right there...

Well, honestly, bein' a southern redneck, I actually said out loud:

 
"Hell, son, shoot 'em down! That's what they put them guns on yer plane for boy".

But I figured I'd make it a little neater so it would be a liitle more universal.

[ghi]

FDuchmn, i still fly my P51 with 75% fuel 2 sectors (roundtrip sometines) .What was the final goal of the sides involved in WW2?
         To win the war, or to create fighter aces?
  What's the final goal of this game? to  make aces ,only?
 we have fuel now always more than 75%, let's dogfight,for score and perks only, until we puke without any strategic reason.

[jetb123]

Originally posted by ghi
I'm more base killer  than fighter.     I don't  like  to lose the war, and if possible to win.                                            
      That's how i get the fun  from  this game for 15$/month.         Soo, fuel can't be porked under 75%?? !!
          How to slow down (300+) rooks sundays evenings??!!
      Soo, ww2's planes only, not WW2's tactics??!!
     Ploiesti's rafineries Romania, (oil supplier for germans), were bombed by Usaf (1943 -1945).
       Fuel should be possible to go down, pork to 0%, disabled, like amo, troops.
       If i'm porker today, i'm outnumbered, if u have more players defend your fuel.

 I agree only way to stop the horde is to pork.

[Overlag]

id be happy with a halfway messure of 50% fuel.......

i just cant understand some peoples arguements

if we can have unlimited planes, unlimited fuel, can we please have unlimited ammo?

[Overlag]

also... read this:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=121602

[nopoop]

Originally posted by ghi
let's dogfight until we puke without any strategic reason.

I had to edit out the score potato/perk thingy there ghi because dogfightin until you puke rarely produces either.

But as it's written now ??

That works for me.

[Overlag]

some people seem to see this game in different ways

i see it as a WWII sim, where u try and take land (bases) from the other side, till he loses. Fights are great yes, but its isnt the ONLY thing that this game is about. Its about winning the war......

yet some see this as a fighter only game, and think base taking is lame/dweebish....what the hell?!?!

[Tex68]

Ok I'm split on this issue.

1. Not all fuel porkers are suicide dweebs. I've flown many a mission in B-17s to slow the enemy down. If that meant take out the fuel, I did, or if capture looked close I'd hit the hangers. But never did I nose dive into the ground doing it. I know there are some that do but not all.

2. Does anyone know what the down time is for Fighter hangers now? My experience has been if you don't have a goon waiting he'll never get there before they pop back up. As a porker, along with a fighter, I'll bomb whatever is the best to accomplish my goals.

3. If the new strategy is to hit the hangers how many people will hang around if all their hangers are down for a 10 sector radius?
Porkers are porkers and they will find something to pork.

I don't know what the answer is here but I do know that I do not enjoy flying bombers if there is not a seeable reward for putting bombs on target.





*Paints big bulls eye on shirt and steps out into the line of fire*

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Well, I love to FIGHT. I fly fighters almost exclusively. However, I also actively participate in defending and taking bases and territory. I'm no ace by any stretch, I barely make the top 1K in fighter and attack rank, my k/d ratio is barely over 1.1:1. But I still like to fight. That does not mean I do not enjoy attack missions and taking or defending bases and territory. But I still think that the ability to pork fuel to 25% or even 50% with or without the 2X multiplier in effect is a joke. I still want to FIGHT. That means I want people to fight at a base I'm attacking, and I want to be able to fight at a base I'm defending. Porking fuel to the point no one can fly ruins the fight. if you want to take or defend bases without a fight, find a place to milkrun somwhere, or a base someone is trying to milkrun. Taking the FIGHT out of the game takes the fun and the challenge out of the game. Without that, you might as well log off and fly against the AI.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Overlag
Its about winning the war......
 

But, as you said... its not ONLY about any one thing, so it's not ONLY about winning the war. Hell, I love flying bombers. I probably spend 1/3 of my sorties in buffs, on an average camp. But I have NO idea how strat works in the MA, and I have never intentionally dropped on a fuel tank.

I couldn't care less about "winning" the war. All it means to me is a forced dump and some perk points.

-Sik

[SlapShot]

1. Not all fuel porkers are suicide dweebs. I've flown many a mission in B-17s to slow the enemy down. If that meant take out the fuel, I did, or if capture looked close I'd hit the hangers. But never did I nose dive into the ground doing it. I know there are some that do but not all.

True ... not all are ... but the majority are and thats the problem. Overlag has a good idea on fuel strat, but I doubt that it would be implemented anytime soon.

2. Does anyone know what the down time is for Fighter hangers now? My experience has been if you don't have a goon waiting he'll never get there before they pop back up. As a porker, along with a fighter, I'll bomb whatever is the best to accomplish my goals.

It's still 15 minutes. I purposely downed GV and FH hangers last night and watched what happened. They stayed down just like in AH I ... no difference.

3. If the new strategy is to hit the hangers how many people will hang around if all their hangers are down for a 10 sector radius?
Porkers are porkers and they will find something to pork.

Same amount as would hang around if all fuel were to be porked in the same radius. Difference is that hangers will regenrate in 15 minutes regardless, where as fuel regeneration relies on a supply mechanisim. Hangers will pop back up long before the fuel is brought back.