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Offline Sandman

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« on: June 27, 2004, 01:33:04 PM »
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/206424p-178119c.html


Brave woman. She deserves better from her school.
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2004, 01:36:18 PM »
Have to agree with ya, very heavy handed of the school administration. Maybe the ACLU will take this one?
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2004, 01:38:44 PM »
On the bright side, she's brought her school under scrutiny. Coming from the valedictorian, people will be more than inclined to take her complaints seriously, and she'll most likely have her diploma in short order.

I wonder what the kid who graduated last in the class thinks of the place?

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2004, 01:38:50 PM »
While sometimes I think people occasionally abuse the right of free speech, in this case, she was honest and said what she felt.

As far as the diploma, they have no right withholding it.  She more than met the requirements to graduate and earned the diploma.  She broke no laws, harmed noone, and owes them nothing.

I am sure a lawyer can get this cleared up soon enough.

While it's easy to applaud her honesty, the reality she will have to learn is that there is a time and place for everything, and brutal honesty at the wrong time will not further her career.  She needs to learn timing and context.

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2004, 01:38:59 PM »
This is obviously a bogus story.  The only way speech is prohibited at a graduation ceremony is if the speech included some reference to God.  The NEA doesn't allow otherwise.;)
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2004, 01:44:46 PM »
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While it's easy to applaud her honesty, the reality she will have to learn is that there is a time and place for everything, and brutal honesty at the wrong time will not further her career.  She needs to learn timing and context.

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2004, 02:23:36 PM »
Sacrifice one for the benefit of many.

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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2004, 07:49:29 PM »
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This is obviously a bogus story.  The only way speech is prohibited at a graduation ceremony is if the speech included some reference to God.  The NEA doesn't allow otherwise.;)



Not so I'm sorry to say>>>>the Teachers Association routinely "squelches" whatever isnt good for the teachers and their "cause" which is the increase in their pay and benifits packages, NOT the betterment of the student population

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2004, 07:54:43 PM »
Denied her diploma? Can they do that? Just for what she said, seems odd to me.

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2004, 08:11:45 PM »
The squeeky wheel gets the grease. Hopefully this will bring about change for the school. They can not withhold her diploma, they are just showing everyone what the students have been living with. I hate low level management with a god complex that does lousy work.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2004, 08:29:42 PM »
I dont see how they can deny her a deploma if she met the credit requirments.  Its a state school....they are governed by rules just like the students.  They cant just refuse a deploma.  I know guys that barely got their credits and they got deplomas....hell the school was happy to be getting rid of them.

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2004, 08:31:46 PM »
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I dont see how they can deny her a deploma if she met the credit requirments.  Its a state school....they are governed by rules just like the students.  They cant just refuse a deploma.  I know guys that barely got their credits and they got deplomas....hell the school was happy to be getting rid of them.


Yep I'm wondering the same. Sue them or something. :D

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2004, 09:15:24 PM »
WTG for the school! This kind of dangerous hate speech must be kept under check....

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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2004, 09:19:29 PM »
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WTG for the school! This kind of dangerous hate speech must be kept under check....


School is Hitler?  :D

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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2004, 09:35:24 PM »
Reminded me of a Charlton Heston speech back in 99....Wonder if anyone remembers

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/3/16/93619

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