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Offline CyranoAH

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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2004, 11:26:53 AM »
Hmm interesting, are there God-Lieutenants? God-Generals?

Shouldn't the ranks be more like the airforce? Since he's up there, it seems appropriate.

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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2004, 11:56:14 AM »
How many donut shops are there in Hamilton?

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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2004, 12:49:41 PM »
I love stories with a happy ending!

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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2004, 12:57:05 PM »
Man, you use the word 'God' and the tolerant and accepting pinkos are ready to rip your throat out!

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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2004, 02:51:02 PM »
god really ticks em off... they will be calling it "the G word" soon enough.

liberals are  the least tolerant folks on earth.   They love humanity but hate people.... all people.

Still... there is no excuse to ever use the term "my bad".    

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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2004, 02:51:03 PM »
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Man, you use the word 'God' and the tolerant and accepting pinkos are ready to rip your throat out!


lol


glad to see thats one reformed child molester.
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2004, 07:47:44 PM »
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What are you? A religious nut? Remind me of Commandment 6 again.


you mean the one that says you shall not murder (Ex 20:13 NIV)?  It's perfectly fine to kill commiting murder OTOH is wrong.

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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2004, 08:36:39 PM »
Is there such a thing as a conservative agnostic, or is that a contradiction in terms?

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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2004, 09:09:25 PM »
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Pretty sure you missed the point there. The felon paid.

I think some believe that felon has a lot more paying to do.  You know, in the ole h e double hockeysticks.
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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2004, 10:16:15 PM »
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Yes that is true, but I think Jesus had a different opinion on what "murder" is:

"The primary reason God hates murder is that out of all creation, only human are made in the image of God ( Genesis 1:26-27; 9:4-6). Even before the codification of the Ten Commandments at Mount Sinai the murder of other human beings was wrong ( Genesis 4:8-12; 4:23-24; 9:4-6; Exodus 1:16-17). While on earth, Jesus spoke out against murder ( Matthew 5:21-26; Mark 10:17-19). We also see in the writings of Paul ( Romans 1:18, 29-32; 13:8-10; Galatians 5:19-21), James ( James 2:8-11; 4:1-3), Peter ( 1 Peter 4:15-16) and John ( Revelation 9:20-21; 21:7-8; 22:14-15) that murder is wrong.

In Matthew 5:21-26 Jesus amplifies the meaning of the sixth commandment. He brings out that to commit murder means more then just killing someone, it means having an angry and unforgiving attitude towards them. The apostle John elaborates on this by writing that to hate someone is the same as murdering them ( 1 John 3:15). Murder like all sin, beginnings in the human mind ( Matthew 15:18-19; Mark 7:20-23) it starts as a thought, in this case hatred, which leads to the action of murder ( James 1:13-15; 4:1-3). The opposite of hating someone is loving them, we should even love our enemies ( Matthew 5:43-48), seeking not revenge, but looking for ways to help them ( Romans 12:17-21).

As we have seen, under the Old Covenant God allowed humans to kill other humans under certain circumstances. But what about today, and those who are now under the New Covenant, should we participate in the execution of a murder or an adulterer? Should Christians involve themselves in warfare? I would argue that Christians should not participate in such activities because the New Covenant is a covenant of life, not of death ( 2 Corinthians 3:4-11). Under the New Covenant Christians do not execute people for sinning. The most drastic steps anyone can take against an unrepentant Christian are withholding brotherly fellowship from him until he repents ( 1 Corinthians 5:9-13; 2 Thessalonians 3:14-15); and delivering or handing him over to Satan for spiritual correction ( 1 Corinthians 5:1-5; 1 Timothy 1:18-20). It is unclear from the scriptures exactly what it means to turn someone over to Satan.

Under the New Covenant a change occurred. Just as Christians are to no longer execute sinners, so they should not wage carnal war, but spiritual warfare ( John 18:36; 2 Corinthians 10:1-6; Ephesians 6:10-18; 1 Timothy 1:18-20; 6:11-14; 2 Timothy 2:3-5; 4:6-8). Christians must be peacemakers ( Matthew 5:9, Romans 14:19), forgiving those who do them harm ( Ephesians 4:29-32; Colossians 3:12-14; Matthew 6:9-15; Mark 11:25-26), treating their enemies with love ( Luke 6:27-36) and not seeking revenge ( Romans 12:17-21; 1 Peter 3:8-12). Hatred which is the same as murder ( 1 John 3:15), is unforgiving, vengeful and hostile towards one's enemies. "


War and any form of violence or hate is unreconcilable with true Cristianity (not to be confused with any "church"). Christianity is the ultimate "turn the other cheek" hippie movement.


As I have often said, I'm a poor example of Christianity,  nuke'm all I say.  God will sort out his own.  Pretty well versed pagan I might add, or did you get the last norweigan pastor to write that exposition up for you? :D

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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2004, 10:37:02 PM »
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What are you? A religious nut? Remind me of Commandment 6 again.


If I was ever put into the position where I couldn't get help fast enough - and it came down to protecting some small innocent child from further molestation by some "Wacko" who had flipped out and was about to kill them I don't think I would think much about it.

I would take my chances with the Law and the "Big Guy" upstairs if it ment saving them.

As for the religious aspect of it - everyone has his own beliefs. Maybe it's just where your from that people don't think like that.
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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2004, 10:58:07 PM »
My God you guys crack me up.  Oopps, didn't mean to use that word.

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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2004, 08:43:06 AM »
guess I would fit right in with ol JC's ideas..  I don't hate anyone... shooting some people is simply putting them out of their misery... no hate involved.   How can you hate someone who is attacking you?   You don't even know him most likely.  you can be relieved that he has gone to a better place or will get another chance in his new life.

if it is a zombie then you have simply put him to rest.   like shooting a walking big mac.

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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2004, 09:10:51 AM »
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I think some believe that felon has a lot more paying to do.  You know, in the ole h e double hockeysticks.


And if Dubya gets his way, our courts will be able to met out that as a punishment too.

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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2004, 09:12:30 AM »
peace to the officers family and friends
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