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Offline Panman

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« on: July 02, 2004, 07:58:58 AM »
This is the 1 plane I would like to see flying in AH2. Heck even perk it
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2004, 08:39:23 AM »
why?
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2004, 06:57:20 AM »
if   i  am  not  mistaken  P61  was  a night  fighter  ?
  we  dont  have  night  in  ah  and  turning  up gamma  stop s  night.
  if  it staye dark  and  we  didnt have  dot  dar then  night  fighters  with  radar would  be  good. we  dont  have  large  bomber  missions  in  the  dark  ,  so  no  point  really.

   thats  my  thoughts
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2004, 06:31:01 PM »
P-61 was also armed to the teeth, maneuverable for its size, and fast. Even without radar it would make a nice twin heavy fighter/destroyer. Like an American Bf-110.
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2004, 11:28:21 PM »
366mph is fast?  That is news to me.
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2004, 12:04:51 AM »
P61 performance always dissapointed me... Heck even late Ju88 based nightfighters had much better performance...
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2004, 04:04:04 AM »
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Offline Tilt

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2004, 05:12:53 AM »
Its pretty  when wearing black ..........but its a night fighter....it was very late war.......infact the US were to use Mossies in the Med because the P61 was late............

We do not do night well enough to add night fighters, we have no air borne radar modelled, our icons are not night ops freindly.
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Offline Slash27

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2004, 11:55:54 AM »
why?

Why not? It was just an idea.
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Offline Panman

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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2004, 03:09:25 PM »
Brits have mossie , germans the 110, why not the p-61 for us yanks?

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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2004, 03:29:10 PM »
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Brits have mossie , germans the 110, why not the p-61 for us yanks?

The US has the best heavy fighter of the lot, the P-38L Lightning.

AH needs more Russian and Japanese aircraft.


BTW, the Bf110G-2 and Mosquito Mk VI are not nightfighters.  Neither had onboard radar and both entered service far earlier than did the P-61.

The German equivilent of the P-61 would be the Ju88G-7 or He219 and the British equivilent would be the Mosquito NF.30.
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Offline Panman

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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2004, 04:28:55 PM »
The P-61b had a top speed over 370mph , Armed with 4- 50cals mounted in a dorsal turret and could be rotated 360 degrees & elevated to 90 degrees, plus 4-20mms in the ventral position. Along with the mossies it was used in the ETO to hunt V-1s.

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Offline Mugzeee

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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2004, 06:57:18 PM »
Panman states his reasons very well.

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This is the 1 plane I would like to see flying in AH2. Heck even perk it

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Originally posted by Panman
Brits have mossie , germans the 110, why not the p-61 for us yanks?

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The P-61b had a top speed over 370mph , Armed with 4- 50cals mounted in a dorsal turret and could be rotated 360 degrees & elevated to 90 degrees, plus 4-20mms in the ventral position. Along with the mossies it was used in the ETO to hunt V-1s.

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I am not sure why we always tend to jump at the chance to challenge someone when they make a request for a particular Airplane?  


I done some research on the BF 110g 2 and found out something interesting.
The BF 110 was or had a version of a night fighter. Cool :)
Unfortunately I can’t find any tech data specifically on the 110g-2
The data I found showed that the different versions had max speeds from 342 to 354 mph.
The Aces High BF 110-G2 has a max speed of about. 370 mph. According to the AH web chart graph.
PS it would be nice if the tec Data in AH2 web charts (Speed and Climb) were in digital form ;)
The research i did would indicate the BF 110g 2 speed performance would fall roughly in the 350 mph range.
It seems that the P61 had similar speed performance.
What makes a Night Fighter a Night Fighter?
That Rig on the nose?






The P61 was Black. Is it the color that makes it a night fighter?
The Bf 110G-4/R7. was the "Night Fighter" version of the BF 110.

From time to time Bf 110G night fighters were used on day operations. They fought American day-bomber formations whenever the Americans flew unescorted. In the Day configuration it was known as the Messerschmitt Bf 110G-4.

Anyways... it was an interesting read.
And a nice request panman. I hope someday you will see your "Black Widow" in AH2












http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/messbf110.html

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/bf110g.html

http://www.russian.ee/~star/air/germany/me-110.html
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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2004, 07:41:52 PM »
Mugzeee,

I'd like to see the P-61.  I'd fly the P-61 now and then, though it is a bit slow.  I think the P-61 would end up being the premier jabo aircraft in AH.  The P-61 is one of the neatest looking aircraft from WWII.


What I object to, and it doesn't matter which aircraft it is about, is people misstating capabilities and making something out to be something it is not.
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Offline Slash27

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2004, 09:30:59 PM »
I am not sure why we always tend to jump at the chance to challenge someone when they make a request for a particular Airplane?

People like to talk to hear their head rattle I guess. Like Panman would object if they added the Ki-43, Pe-2,and P-61 at one time. Like anyone would object, then again...........
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