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« on: July 02, 2004, 03:15:08 PM »
Caught on film by a traffic cam.  Warning, this is somewhat graphic.  1.5 Mb film
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2004, 03:17:37 PM »
AMMO LIVES!!!! :)

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2004, 03:17:55 PM »
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Re: Never pays to run a red light
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2004, 03:19:27 PM »
Quote
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Never pays to run a red light


Nor to jaywalk nonchalantly!!!

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2004, 03:20:30 PM »
Looks like the pedestrian was jay walking through the red too...Is that real footage?..looks fake for some reason.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2004, 03:21:15 PM »
Man that dude looked like he got crushed big time. He never had a chance.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2004, 03:22:44 PM »
Sucks to be that guy...

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2004, 03:46:49 PM »
Wow.. if you watch the PT Cruiser the idiot doesn't even touch the brakes... The car that was hit was a scubby forester.... I feel sorry for the poor guy that got whacked tho...

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2004, 03:51:44 PM »
Junky little cars don't belong on the road.  Look at how the mini-SUV just instantly flipped over.  If that had been a car which was actually SAFE for the road instead of a poorly-designed POS, then he would have not flipped and probably would have had enough control to MISS the walker (probably would have bounced over the curb and hit the poles for the light instead).   Of course that would have required the driver to be paying attention, which apparently he was not since he managed to both run the light and not see the walker.  Even if he had green he still didn't see the walker.

So, WHICH car was actually running the red light?  You can't tell for absolute certain based on footage alone because you can't SEE the light.

Interestingly, it is possible--depending on the timing of the lights--that the PT was running the red (this would require the walker to be blatantly jaywalking).  Of course anyone witnessing it would have known WHO had the red light.  An interesting flaw of that particular traffic cam, that you can't see the lights.  IF you take the opposite traffic's stopping (note their nosedives) to mean that the light had just turned to red for both lanes (assuming no left-turn light, or equal-timed ones on both sides of road), then BOTH the Suv and the PT were running a red as it would not have turned green for the Sub by that time yet.

Interesting footage.

EDIT:  Information you could not possibly know based on the cam footage alone:


"Pollice say the light had been red for 28 seconds when the PT Cruiser entered the intersection."

"They say Tegtmeyer should not have been crossing the street at the time because the crosswalk signal was red."


The guy lived BTW.



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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2004, 04:03:58 PM »
looks like all the cars comming towards the camera are stopping for a light changing to red.

if that is correct, the pedestrain was not "J" walking (in fact "J" walking is crossing at a place where there is no crosswalk not aginst the lights).

the pedestrian was probably in the middle of the intersection when the light changed against him (meaning he still legally had the right of way).

that would also mean the PT crusier was trying to zoom through that "yellow" he saw, and didn't make it. the other light turned green and the car from the right was probably "timing" it so he wouldn't have to fully stop. that would explain the speed that he had.



oh well thats my take on it. anyone know what happened to that pedestrain? did he live?
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2004, 04:24:27 PM »
Well I wasn't going to watch it if the dude was killed, but I'll watch it now after having read the story...

...poor bastard...

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2004, 04:46:58 PM »
First Mistake,

Walking when sign read don't walk

Second Mistake, Running a red light.

Third Mistake, veering LEFT to avoid the vehicle, your suppose to veer right.. from what I've been told, cause he coulda slammed into one of the stopped cars..
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2004, 04:55:45 PM »
Oh my goodness, he lived!!  

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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2004, 05:09:43 PM »
NEVAR trust a crosswalk light!

I was riding my 10 speed one day to return some movies to Blockbuster. It was a beautiful day and I didn't want to waste it by driving the 10 blocks to the store. At the last intersection, which had crosswalk lights, I crossed WITH the light only to make it about 6 feet when a '99 Dodge Pickup nailed me trying to make a right on red.

I was screaming "WHOA!" at the top of my lungs(grew up on a farm, it was instinct)and dragged about 10 feet before he stopped. I managed to get my left hand shoved inside the trucks grill and had a deathgrip on something that kept me from being dragged under the front end. The guy never saw 6'2" 220lb lil ol me because he was looking for oncoming traffic to make his turn.

And NO, I didn't sue the guy.
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