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Offline AKIron

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Patch 5 unplayable
« on: July 02, 2004, 09:07:57 PM »
Patch 4 was pretty smooth but patch 5 has continuous (at least 1 every 10 seconds, more frequent when fighting) mini freezes and 2 ctds in half an hour. I had already cranked down my audio acceleration.

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WinXP Pro
Pentium 4 2.8Ghz
512MB Ram
Radeon 9800 Pro
Latest drivers

Eagerly awaiting patch 6.
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Offline AKIron

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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2004, 09:10:29 PM »
Dunno if the "test" version works with post patch 5 arena, will give it a try.
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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2004, 07:55:15 AM »
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Originally posted by AKIron
Dunno if the "test" version works with post patch 5 arena, will give it a try.


I couldn't get it too, it wanted to upgrade to patch 5, even though patch 5 was already installed........

Having same problems with patch 5 as previous patches...redrawing landscape until like 4 k away from field.........
terrain redrawing off and on, with glass terrain....frame rate is higher by about 10 once air borne above 4 or 5 k alt..but drops below high 20's/low 30's now when flying over a base with little action drops down to near 10 at times gets to be unplayable..before could maintain around 27+ when low on deck over base in heavy action......

Patch 5 is worse than Patch 4 for me now

win98se ( all uptodate drivers )
athlon XP1700+
Ati Radeon 9000 64 meg DDR ( cat 4.3 drivers - most up to date for win98/ME)
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1024x768 32 bit ( refresh set to 120 )
HP P1100 21" Monitor
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all sliders set for performance now
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Offline AKIron

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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2004, 10:05:43 AM »
Patch 5 seems to have helped many while making the game unplayable for others. I'm thinking we may need two versions until you guys get this ironed out.
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Offline rshubert

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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2004, 10:36:10 AM »
But wait...that's not good, is it?


Same problems as AKiron, but with:

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System Information
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   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp1.020828-1920)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
       System Model: PCV-RZ22G(UC)
               BIOS: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
          Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
             Memory: 1024MB RAM
          Page File: 183MB used, 1511MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0902 32bit Unicode

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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
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       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0171&SUBSYS_A0011043&REV_A3
   Display Memory: 64.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
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      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 3/24/2004 10:04:00, 4274560 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 3/24/2004 10:04:00, 1895648 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4231-11CF-DB65-0B8002C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
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 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
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 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2004, 11:35:18 AM »
You and I definitely aren't the only ones rshubert but I'm confident Hitech will get it worked out.
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Offline nopoop

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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2004, 12:12:45 PM »
Patch 5=white squares on the dash panel for a quick moment when first spawning.

Parked at a busy field for 10 minutes and then rolled. Framerate when flying within ground detail 25 to 35. Once at altitude 60. One on four fight off a enemy base 25 to 35 with no studders, hitches or freezes.

Runnin good, with a damn good fight to boot.

Epox INTEL865 EP-4PDA2+
800 FBS Hypertheading
INTEL P4/3.06GHz CPU
2 x 512MB PC 3200 Ram
Western Digital SATA 80gig hard drive
7200RPM 8MB buffer
Chaintech FX5900XT Nvidia 128meg card
. OEM drivers
. Card settings: 1042x768 truecolor 85 hertz
. Image setting: Performance
. AA setting: 4X
. Anisotropic filtering: 4X
. Vsync on ( 85 hertz )
DirectX 9.0B
Soundblaster 512 XP configuration
. 3/4 acceleration
Misc DVD-RW, DVD, floppy
Antec Truepower 430watt power supply
Antec/PlusView 1000AMG case
Two extra case fans ( 5 total )
XP Home

Ingame vidio settings:
Resolution 1024x768
Horizon, transitions, mipmaping enabled
Texture size 1024
Texture load per frame Unlimited
Ground detail at 2 miles
All other sliders at Maximum
Gamma 1.1
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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2004, 12:29:22 PM »
Patch 5 slow and erratic for me while previous patches were okay.  Previous framerates in 40s and 50s decline to 20s and 30s with Patch 5.  Several freezes.  Several fights unplayable esp. low alt.  

P4 2.26 GHz
NVidia GeForce Ti 4400
XP Home
512 MB
DirX 9.0b
1024x768
Latest drivers
Running AH default screen settings
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Offline quig

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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2004, 01:08:36 PM »
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Offline hitech

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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2004, 02:05:16 PM »
Hmm
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Offline Panthor

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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2004, 03:14:45 PM »
Same problem for me.  I finally got tired of all the video lag/jitter/freeze and cancelled my account.

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Sound accel set to 3/4

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Offline hubsonfire

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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2004, 04:13:25 PM »
very similar problems to those already mentioned. in addition, looking around using the hat switch causes a momentary freeze, same when attacking ground vehicles/targets. been really solid till patch 3 or 4, then definite decline in video quality/speed with most recent patch. i am, however, experiencing fewer CTDs, and have had only 1 freeze since patch 5.   wish i could offer some suggestions.

win xp pro on...
AMD 2400 on asus a7n8x-x mobo
512mb pc 2700 ram
nvidia fx 5200 256mb agp8 running omega 53.03 drivers
sb pci 128 soundcard (yeah, i know, dinosaur)
40 gig hdd,  recently defragged, newest avail drivers on about everything (afaik)

hope you guys get this figured out soon. in the meantime, i'll try not to whine too much =/
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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2004, 04:24:51 PM »
Got this from another post by Hitech:

1. Reboot system
2. Make sure your in Shift F1 or SHift F2 view range.
3. Delete your cach folder.
4. Double check 512 max texture size or lower.
5. For a test if you are running any fire wall software , shut it down, do not just disable it,make sure it has been shut down.
6. Make sure all your video card settings are defaults in the windows configuration.

i did all this plus used enditall.
FR went up about 20fps
I'm thinking its the firewall but, maybe cache deletion helped as well
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Offline rshubert

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The issue is NOT framerate.
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2004, 05:53:19 PM »
Hell, I get good frame rates.  In the tower, 110 or so, usually.  The issue is the stutters and microfreezes.  During the microfreeze, the frame rate never changes---'cause the screen is frozen.
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Offline TweetyBird

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Patch 5 unplayable
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2004, 07:14:19 PM »
>> During the microfreeze, the frame rate never changes---'cause the screen is frozen.<<

Identical problem here. Frame rates are no problem 70-75 fps all the time. Its the micro freezes when getting close to another plane.

So far, I've made sure I have the latest video drivers, defragged the hard drive and went through the list HT posted (see Wildcards post).  

In another post HT also suggested making sure sound acceleration was set down 1 notch from max. That is looking promising but can't get online long enough to test it till later this evening. It eliminated a lot of the stutter offline.

But just thought I'd throw that out - check your sound settings.
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