A friend's opinion of Sen. Kerry

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Nash
Well, I don't see a lot of people going batsh*t over Kerry here.

I still have yet to hear any concrete proposals from Kerry's side that would make me think he would be any better.  All I hear are nebulous things like "We should work more with our allies" --- Work with them to do what?  "I will create jobs" --- How?  "I can speak French so I can talk to the Euros."---  His Iraq proposal is to stay the course.  I really don't see the change for the better in any concrete way.

I am certainly not going to vote just on Guns or Roe v Wade.

So it's just going to be a referendum on Bush.  If Kerry wins he will have a clear mandate to not be Bush. -wow- Not necessarily the best foundation on which to build a great presidency.

[Nash]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I still have yet to hear any concrete proposals from Kerry's side that would make me think he would be any better.  

Maybe you haven't. But what difference does that really make?

Take for example, well, Bush...

In his campaign it was "Fuzzy Math", "No Nation Building", "Compassionate Conservative" and last but not least "Uniter and not Divider."

Okay?

Now, maybe these sounded like concrete proposals to you at the time, but I really don't see it. So I guess we have to look elswehere in evaluating a candidate.

All I hear are nebulous things like "We should work more with our allies" --- Work with them to do what?  "I will create jobs" --- How?  "I can speak French so I can talk to the Euros."---  His Iraq proposal is to stay the course.  I really don't see the change for the better in any concrete way.

Overall... how is this any different than what any other candidate in history has said? You expect these guys to suddenly whip out a peice of chalk and start drawing?

Did he really say "I can speak French so I can talk to the Euros"? No. "Stay the course in Iraq"? Sure, which is a good thing, right? It's also good that Bush comes closer and closer each day to approaching the Iraq situation in the way that Kerry has been calling for since day one. But nooo.... Bush aint a flipper floooper, and Kerry is being vague.

So it's just going to be a referendum on Bush.  If Kerry wins he will have a clear mandate to not be Bush. -wow- Not necessarily the best foundation on which to build a great presidency.

Yeppers, a referendum on Bush. As far as a mandate not to be Bush, cool. That is MASSIVE territory. You could get lost in it.

[Sixpence]

Hmmmm, screwed a guy who had a hand in the deaths of police officers and federal agents. I'll have to think about this one, hmmm. Drugs rampant in our cities, hmmmmm. All those ruined lives, hmmmmmm.

WTFG Kerry!!!

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Nash
Well, I don't see a lot of people going batsh*t over Kerry here. You see anything like that? I sure don't.

To quote "Mr Wulf" from Pulp Fiction in the "Garage Scene".  "Well gentlemen, let's not start sucking each other's d^&k's quite yet."

Karaya

[Nash]

Good scene. What's it mean?

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Nash
Good scene. What's it mean?

Moral of my quote in reference to this thread is simple, give it time.

Karaya

PS - Great scene

[Nash]

Well I'm gonna be first in line. Kerry is a good, decent, experienced and intelligent  man.

Now suck my d!ck.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Nash
Now suck my d!ck.

Liberals would talk like that.  Clinton might as well have done it, he probably did with the Ogre's he cheated on Hillar with.  

Happily married but my Husky is neutered, being an "it" he might (No guarantees onthe teeth though) .  

Karaya

[Nash]

whoah dude YOU said it! But of course Clinton is to blame somehow.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Nash
Yeppers, a referendum on Bush. As far as a mandate not to be Bush, cool. That is MASSIVE territory. You could get lost in it.

Tony Blair is not Bush, he is in that territory.

What I am asking for is some indication of change of policy, not just different DNA.  The choice has yet to be outlined.

The poles show that the populace doesn't have a handle on Kerry.  

 polling report.com[i/] "Looking ahead to November's presidential election, do you feel George W. Bush deserves to be reelected, or do you feel he does not deserve to be reelected?" 45% Yes, 50% No

"If the election for president were held today, and George W. Bush were running as the Republican candidate and John Kerry were running as the Democratic candidate, for whom would you vote?" 47% Bush, 47% Kerry 6% fence sitters.  Nader gives Bush a 1% lead.

According to that Bush polls 2% of the people that think he doesn't deserve to keep his job, and Kerry Loses 3% of those folks.

With all the negatives Bush is carrying, the Kerry campaign has done a poor job defining their candidate.

[Nash]

That's typical at this point.

On Wednesday Kerry gets a 5-10 point bounce and then another 5-10 after the convention. He's not even officially the nominee yet.

Yeah, you're exactly right in that Kerry has not been "defined" yet. As far as the general populace is concerned, he is barely known.

Notice the millions spent by the repubs trying to define Kerry? Notice the lack of a campaign Kerry has actually run thus far?

It's amazing he is where he is. And he aint even out of the gate yet.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Nash
That's typical at this point.

On Wednesday Kerry gets a 5-10 point bounce and then another 5-10 after the convention. He's not even officially the nominee yet.

Yeah, you're exactly right in that Kerry has not been "defined" yet. As far as the general populace is concerned, he is barely known.

Notice the millions spent by the repubs trying to define Kerry? Notice the lack of a campaign Kerry has actually run thus far?

It's amazing he is where he is. And he aint even out of the gate yet.

True.  Good post. <>

Karaya

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by storch
Boy are you brilliant!!!

Smart enough to get a lawyer who knows what 'immunity' means, and smart enough to avoid commiting new felonies.

[xrtoronto]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
The poles show that the populace doesn't have a handle on Kerry.

I read a 1-2 hours of news/day and their is very little about Kerry in our papers. I don't know anything about the guy except his wife is wealthy. Doesn't seem to have much of a 'spark' or personality.
I seen a guy giving a speech who is expected to be Kerry's running mate...I can't remember his name; Do you know who I mean? He's younger than Kerry and a very good speaker. It was only a quick clip; I didn't even get a chance to listen to what he was saying.

[Nash]

Edwards.