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« on: July 05, 2004, 03:29:10 PM »
NEA Endorses Kerry for President

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By BEN FELLER, AP Education Writer

WASHINGTON - The National Education Association, the nation's largest union, endorsed Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) for president Monday, the final touch in its campaign to drive up school spending and reshape the biggest education law in decades.


The NEA, a 2.7-million member group composed mainly of teachers, is out to advance its agenda on everything from testing students to halting private-school vouchers. The union is mobilizing its money and forces for Kerry — targeting political staff in 15 swing states, going into schools to rally its members, and joining liberal groups to organize a massive night of political house parties.


Kerry, who is scheduled to speak to the 9,000 delegates at the NEA convention on Tuesday, was endorsed by 86.5 percent of them. The Massachusetts senator offers many teacher-friendly promises the union likes, but he also advances ideas the NEA has long opposed, such as paying bonuses to teachers based on student test scores.


Although a quarter of NEA members identify themselves with the Republican Party, the union has never endorsed a Republican for president and typically spends $9 out of every $10 it raises on Democrats. Its relationship with the Bush administration has been particularly salamanderly since his education secretary, Rod Paige, jokingly referred to the union as a "terrorist organization" and annoyed members with how he apologized for the remark.

More $$ to dump into the black hole we call the public school system...GO JFK!!!

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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2004, 03:37:37 PM »
That is news! Talk about out of the blue! Kerry gets the NEA nod...I'm shocked! Shocked that there is gambling going on here...
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2004, 03:38:31 PM »
NEA sucks, an endorsment by them is like being endorsed by the FDB's.

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2004, 03:54:29 PM »
Hey now, we bring in the much needed drunkard and pervert votes.  How do you think Clinton got re-elected, anyhow?
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2004, 04:24:26 PM »
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That is news! Talk about out of the blue! Kerry gets the NEA nod...I'm shocked! Shocked that there is gambling going on here...


Crazy, right?

Next thing, the Gay and Lesbian vote will swing his wa....It did?

Oh...

Well, the minorities..... they did too...

I see...

Any day now, major leaders in Europe will want John Ker....

Ah, nevermind.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2004, 05:03:17 PM »
DYERSVILLE, Iowa - As Sen. John Kerry campaigned across Iowa on Sunday with Gov. Tom Vilsack, widely reported to be on Kerry's vice presidential short list, both men dodged repeated questions about whether their joint appearance might be a preview of the Democratic ticket.

But even as he tried to avoid making news Sunday, Kerry broke new ground in an interview that ran in the daily Telegraph Herald of Dubuque, Iowa.

A Catholic who supports abortion rights and has taken heat recently from some in the church hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper: "I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life does begin at conception."

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2004, 05:13:23 PM »
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A Catholic who supports abortion rights and has taken heat recently from some in the church hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper: "I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life does begin at conception."

 


Am I getting this right.....he opposes abortion but supports a womans right to choose?  can this guy really be on both sides of every issue?

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2004, 05:26:24 PM »
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"I believe life does begin at conception."--JFK


For some future humans, physical appearance apparently doesn't improve after conception either.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2004, 05:32:21 PM »
"i was against abortion before i was for it".... no i ment i was for it before i was against it.

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i gave my ribbons back but not my medals that the ribbons stood for.

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2004, 05:38:26 PM »
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Am I getting this right.....he opposes abortion but supports a womans right to choose?  can this guy really be on both sides of every issue?


I suspect that represents the majority view ---  personally opposes abortion (in other words, you and your wife wouldn't choose this alternative,) but you support the right for other women to make this decision.

It's sort of like I oppose anyone trying to shoot me down in AH, but I support their right to do so.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2004, 05:52:29 PM »
"i was an idiot before i was a moron" -john9001
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2004, 05:57:00 PM »
It goes a little further than that curly.  By saying that he believes that life begins at conception, he's basically saying that abortion is murder.  Let it sink in, if he TRULY believes that life begins at conception then aborting that life is killing an innocent human being.  

The traditional democratic stance is to say something to the effect of "abortion wouldn't be an option for me personally, but I support each woman's right to choose."  Or something like that.  I'm sure democrats are furiously at work to try and break some story to cover this one up.

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2004, 06:15:49 PM »
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It goes a little further than that curly.  By saying that he believes that life begins at conception, he's basically saying that abortion is murder.  Let it sink in, if he TRULY believes that life begins at conception then aborting that life is killing an innocent human being.  

The traditional democratic stance is to say something to the effect of "abortion wouldn't be an option for me personally, but I support each woman's right to choose."  Or something like that.  I'm sure democrats are furiously at work to try and break some story to cover this one up.

Cougar


Hey Coug,

Cougar, those are his personal religious beliefs.  They have absolutely nothing to do with his political beliefs.

I had a physics prof a long time that I really respected.  Very bright fellow. ;)  Later, I got to personally know him and discovered he was a serious christian.  I asked him "how can you believe christian dogma when you know scientifically it's inconsistent and illogical?"

He said "I have two hats and I never wear them at the same time."

Many catholic politicians are personally against abortion while at the same time, they support the law of the land.  There's nothing contradictory or wrong-headed about that at all.

curly
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2004, 06:32:41 PM »
I don't like Kerry, but I do understand his stance.  I also don't think valid life begins at conception, but I do think abortion is murder, unless it is done very early.  I also don't think that anyone else has to agree with my position; that is, I wouldn't deny abortion to anyone, but I would certainly have no part of it, and it does impact my view of someone if I know they have been involved with an abortion.


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i was for conception before I was against it...
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2004, 10:58:44 PM »
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Hey Coug,

Cougar, those are his personal religious beliefs.  They have absolutely nothing to do with his political beliefs.


and his political "beliefs" changes with the wind

just wait a while and the one belief will be in line with the other and later will be 180 degrees out again

the guy is a joke - LOL

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