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Udie · « **Reply #330 on:** July 12, 2004, 10:32:34 PM »

Crumpp and thank you very very much for your service.

Gscholz, stick a sock in it. Crumpp was there on the ground while you were at home *****ing about hitler. Yeah please take your "military" home. It wouldn't seem that you're needed or wanted. Get the hint?

A big fat ~~, thank you and WTG! to the German pilot too!~~

Nash · « **Reply #331 on:** July 12, 2004, 10:43:53 PM »

"You aren't there with us, thanks for NOTHING!"

"Well, actually we ARE there."

"Oh.....uh, WELL GO HOME!"

holyshreck... tools.

demaw1 · « **Reply #332 on:** July 12, 2004, 11:03:00 PM »

scholz

I think that the wing man stays high and wont come down encase of a shoulder missile or some other surprise and incase of enemy aircraft.They will change places after ord. is released if there are only 2 in entire flight. So it is possible to happen as crumpp said.
On another thread u talked about norways underground.You are right of the books I have read they were the best trained,created the most havoc,and were gung ho to do about anything the allied command would have them do.
It is possible the flyers commander would not let him go below 15000 feet as it is my understanding that was the orders for some countries ,dont know which ones.
May I say germans will always be germans and when they are on your side that is a very good thing.

demaw1 · « **Reply #333 on:** July 12, 2004, 11:06:57 PM »

gee crumpp i am sorry i forgot to say thank you for your service to our country,from me and my family.

Jayclark · « **Reply #334 on:** July 12, 2004, 11:19:17 PM »

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gee crumpp i am sorry i forgot to say thank you for your service to our country,from me and my family.

I second that. Would of been there if i could, but was in a car crash and hurt my back. 3 surgerys later and only 1 more to go. At least they keep saying this is your last one.

Silat · « **Reply #335 on:** July 12, 2004, 11:50:43 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
That was Germany's crime. More Jews were saved by the French than from any other occupied country in WWII,

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GS just want to clarify . The Jews that survived in France were not on the whole saved by the French. There were many reasons that they survived.
And although many survived the murderous Nazi's a significant number did not.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005429

storch · « **Reply #336 on:** July 13, 2004, 12:36:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Silat
GS just want to clarify . The Jews that survived in France were not on the whole saved by the French. There were many reasons that they survived.
And although many survived the murderous Nazi's a significant number did not.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005429

can anyone say Claus Barbie, the butcher of Lyons????

Slash27 · « **Reply #337 on:** July 13, 2004, 01:55:14 AM »

holyshreck... tools.

eat me jerkoff

straffo · « **Reply #338 on:** July 13, 2004, 02:33:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Silat
GS just want to clarify . The Jews that survived in France were not on the whole saved by the French. There were many reasons that they survived.
And although many survived the murderous Nazi's a significant number did not.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005429

Completly right, even if there is some counter-example to your affirmation.
I'll never say the jew that escaped the holocaust where saved by the french.

In you link there is an affirmation I've never read : 1/3 of the deported jew where French citizen ... when the jew population in France in 1940 was 50% french native and 50% refugees (as far as I know).

Does it mean the french jew where protected ?
I can't affirm that , but I've read of a policeman who helped a french jew familly escape BUT handled a polish jew familly to the gestapo ...

But again I'm certainly biased having ties with the Edmond Michelet familly.

NUKE · « **Reply #339 on:** July 13, 2004, 02:34:18 AM »

Is this thread done yet? damn......

straffo · « **Reply #340 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:33:23 AM »

Nope NUKe it didn't ended
I'm trying to keep up with last night posts

demaw1 you don't have your fact right.

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Originally posted by demaw1
scholz.... lack of ethnic cleansing...
Make no mistake it was germanys crime, but all countries that participated were part of it.There are several books that said in the neighborhood 70000 french jews were killed,Because of the entitys these authors were affilated with I am very suspect,but I didnt say french jews I said jews.France deported an untold number of jews that had escaped germany austria and other countries.They used their police,their trains,their trucks yes and some even participated although that number was small and maybe to be expected in any country,never the less they still did it,that in my book is genocide.

1/3 of those 70000 where french citizen (see silat link)
That's said it's still an infamy for France to have collaborated actively with the nazis.

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example; many countries want at least a mention of God in their constitution,saying that mans rights come from something higher than man.But the great french leader was opposed saying...this is a seclur union made by seclur men,we do not help from anyone or anything else.Let me see....godless communism...godless nazisism....godless fascistism....and now godless european union emm will the outcome be differant?? I think not. and all in less than 100 years. [/B]

Complete BS,God is not mentionned either in the Human Right bill. Never God was mentionned in French republic constitution.

FYI during Vichy regime the constitution was suspended ! Vichy used christianism to legitimate itself,using the unconditionnal support the french religious autority showed to Pétain.

Plus Vichy anti-semitism got it's root in the traditionnal christian anti-semitism advocated by the right-wing religious nuts.

History showed us how God can be used as a tool by the regime to support extreme view not only in the 40's but also long before when it was a monarchy in France.

In short : god in the constitution
No , thanks, I don't want to open the door of the right-wing moron.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #341 on:** July 13, 2004, 11:42:07 AM »

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Yeah, Let me tell you about the Norwegian F16's. In one ambush I was in, we had a Norwegian F16 overhead providing Air support.

Where was this and what plane did the german flew???

if it was afghanistan and the the planes both where f16's it was probably dutch.

i'm just wondering

Naso · « **Reply #342 on:** July 13, 2004, 12:40:22 PM »

It started interesting.

Now....

Another thread down.

Soooo boring.

Edbert · « **Reply #343 on:** July 13, 2004, 12:44:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Naso
It started interesting.

Now....

Another thread down.

Soooo boring.

...and it was almost dead too, nearly 8 hours had passed until someone resuccitated it

Crumpp · « **Reply #344 on:** July 13, 2004, 05:57:10 PM »

Bug,

Yeah we had Dutch Air Support but these guys were Norwegien. I was a little busy but I want to say the German was in a Tornado.
This was in Afghanistan.
Crumpp

Author Topic: The USA (Read 8251 times)

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