Homeland Security

[lazs2]

mt... admit that democrats and liberal judges are at least 90% of the problem... they start the policies and defend the illegals and give them power and then you expect the outnumbered republicans to make it all well and good again and be the bad guys who are taking stuff away from babies again?

liberal judges that thwart the will of the people are not appointed by republicans and you know it.

You need to admit that electing democrats makes the problem way worse and that the more republicans you elect the better chance you have of things getting better.

I have a mexican girfriend and work in a town that is 67% mexican... the second generation ones hate the illegals worse than any klan member.   They don't want California or Texas to go back to mexico and become just more crap in the craphole that is mexico.  

lazs

[midnight Target]

No lazs.

The sweeps were stopped by the Republican administrators of the Border Patrol and Homeland Security. Judges have nothing to do with this one.

I too work with over 80% Mexican Americans. Just last year the Secret Service contacted us. We had an internal investigation done and found 30 employees (out of 800) who were illegals, but were using very well done, faslified documents. One had worked for us for 5 years. The loss of trained employees due to this deception was devastating.

[Ripper29]

Originally posted by Krusher
[
I actually fear the northern border more than our southern.  It seems like our Canadian neighbors would not blink an eye if a van load of terrorist came south to cause trouble.  I am of the opinion they would boohoo a terrorist attack for about 3 seconds then tell us we had it coming. [/B]

I was wondering if your able to support this statement in any way.  I don't recall hearing about any "van loads" of terrorist entering the US from Canada, not that Canada can contol who enteres the USA (I mean it's US Customs they have to pass through).  You have done a pretty good job stopping Cows and lumber, maybe you need to apply the same tactics to terrorist (I jest of course).   Also I don't recall anyone "boo hoooing" and then telling you that you had it coming.... maybe I am wrong, please post a link.   But if you decide to close your northern border the let me know soon, I have to make reservations in Orlando for later this year and I don't want to lose my deposit.

[Silat]

Originally posted by Creamo
Vote for the Trial Lawyer Vice Pres.!

I think Republicans should try to be informed.
Trying to blast Edwards for being a lawyer is just plain silly.
What a bad man he is for guarding the rights of "we" common folk when a corporation thru negligence causes death or injury.

Lawyers in the Senate:

Mitch McConnell (R - KY)
Thad Cochran (R - MS)
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[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by midnight Target
You're right. I am very "conservative" on this issue. I also think English should be mandated as the national language.

Did anyone listen to the interview?

::VERY Large round of applause:::

I have 2 solutions to the Illegal immigrents.

First Make Mexico a state Yes by invasion if necessary. After all isnt that what they are doing by sneaking in illegaly?
 Then they wont be illegal and we can devellop its untapped resources and they not only wont have to sneak up north but they wont want to.

Or second.
I have no problem with anyone that wants to come to this country for a better life. So long as its done legally.
that being said
 Put Troops or paid rednecks who Im sure would be proud to do it along the borders.
Anyone caught sneaking in illegally  Man, Woman or child is to be shot on sight.
Leaving only an opening through the desert which they must trek through without any aid such as food or water from us at all. Much like the cubans who if they can swim to our shores cans stay.
You trek through the desert ON YOUR OWN  Without help from anyone Manage to survive, and then check into an immigration station once you've completed the task and you have earned your right to stay.

[CyranoAH]

Good ideas Dredlock, they both make excellent reality shows!

"Who is to be shot first? Mother or daughter? Call now 1-800-KILLM and place your vote! You could be the lucky winner of big prizes!!"

Daniel

[midnight Target]

The only real permanent solutions to this problem are these 2:

1. Help Mexico create an economy that is worth staying for.
2. Screw up the US economy so much that Mexico looks like a better alternative.

I vote #1.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by midnight Target
The only real permanent solutions to this problem are these 2:

1. Help Mexico create an economy that is worth staying for.
2. Screw up the US economy so much that Mexico looks like a better alternative.

I vote #1.

I vote for removing every illegal and then sealing the border. Screw Mexico.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by CyranoAH
Good ideas Dredlock, they both make excellent reality shows!

"Who is to be shot first? Mother or daughter? Call now 1-800-KILLM and place your vote! You could be the lucky winner of big prizes!!"

Daniel

If I didnt mean every word I would say
"Now there is a classic  case of someone taking a good idea and improving upon it"

[Lizking]

I hate to tell you ladies, but a very large percentage of the illegals crossing our southern border are not from Mexico, they are from Central and South America.  Oddly enough, Vincente is VERY strict about his southern border.  The salamander.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by NUKE
Illegal Mexican workers are taking jobs away from Americans and screwing up wages, elections and the economy, no doubt about it.

Makes me sick. I want so badly to have action taken to get them the hell out of  our country.

Coming from a Union Family.  They did a good enough job themselves.  Not to mention the lack of education floating around today.  I mean why not provide money for students to attend a public university or stop shipping jobs overseas.  But really, blame it on the Mexicans.

The buckets of watermelon all of you step into, never ceases to amaze me.

Karaya

[Thrawn]

Ripper29, as I'm sure you are aware, not one of the 9/11 terrorists came through Canada to get to the US.


NUKE, this is one area were we are in agreement as far as the issue is concerned, illegal immigrants.  We just disagree on methodology.  I would prefer to attack demand, you would prefer to attack supply.  But really, I also believe that a much stronger board patrol on the US frontiere with Mexico would also be a good thing.

[GtoRA2]

Thrawn,
 I say attack both supply and demand.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
Thrawn,
 I say attack both supply and demand.

Absolutely.

[irritant]

The answer is fairly simple.

If companies are forced to pay the same wages for illegal immigrants as everyone else, then the incentive to hire them is gone.