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Offline TweetyBird

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« on: July 10, 2004, 11:50:42 PM »
The dirty little secret is AH2 is not ready. Along with stutters, I now have ctd's. My hunch is the strain of the loading plane skins was underestimated. I am within a day of canceling my main account. I'm sure HTC can absorb the 14.95 loss :D

The ironic thing is I just posted a message on my squad list about even with the stutters its playable, as long as I don't count on it being up to par with AH1. With the new CTD's I retract that.

HTC, you really need to consider rolling back until you feel comfortable that people are getting the gameplay they're paying for. This forced beta stuff isn't right. I mean I didn't do anything and all of a sudden, I'm paying for beta, and beta that is not working well for me. Is that fair? Something drastic has to change this week or I have to start questioning my inteligence for being in this position. If this was a sandwich at a fast food store, I'd have thrown it at the clerk.

And before someone tells me "don't let the door hit you in the arse", when you cancel an account, the program asks the reason for your cancellation. They are pretty broad in scope, so consider this specific.For months and months of testing, there was one way of handling textures. After it goes pay, its completely redesigned leaving some beta testers out in the cold. Now you explain the fairness of that.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2004, 12:09:53 AM by TweetyBird »
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Offline Shane

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2004, 12:13:18 AM »
I'm not experiencing stutters. I'm sure you've tried the standard suggestions. The stutters could be coming from cpu interrupts unrelated to actually playing AH.

AH2 *is* more cpu and vid card intensive than AH1 was, no question. I upgraded my RAM from 512 to 784 and seem to see some improvement. And I run a fairly clean system - 12 processes running on win XP with the latest Omega drivers for my ATI 9700pro. My sys specs are listed in my sig.

I'm betting adding more RAM would go a ways in helping here. I'm not too familar with the NVida cards, but from all accounts they run better with AH2 than the radeons.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2004, 12:34:50 AM »
12 processes running. I thought I was doing good with 18. I waiting for the next patch before I even open up AH2 again. Patch 3 was the best. Since then its been downhill. Haven't had any CTD's all throughout the beta and when it went live. Hold my breath though.
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Offline nopoop

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2004, 12:35:26 AM »
Etch I know your pissed, you want to play and something in your box isn't letting you.

Take a breath, they're working on it, prolly as I speak.

Your in a minority. That sucks, don't know why it is but it's the truth. "Something" is different with yours and a small group of other peoples boxes that is tough to single out.

There was 490 in the Main on friday night. It's approaching normal "AH1" numbers.

The boys in Texas are not going to give up.

Don't you either.

Cya's up !!
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2004, 12:37:29 AM »
Etch,

I am running a very similar system to yours... 2.4 rather than 2.8, same ram, same vid card, xp... and experiencing very few problems...  I suffer from a lower frame rate when it's very busy, but no CTD's.  What sort of modem connection are you using?  Not sure what to tell you bud...  your system should be running game with few problems.

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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2004, 12:57:54 AM »
2.8 P4 here with no CTDs no stutters and no problems..


But yeah it has to be AH and not your system:rolleyes:
« Last Edit: July 11, 2004, 01:11:31 AM by GtoRA2 »
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Offline Roscoroo

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2004, 02:08:30 AM »
its a video card /driver/game code thing,  and they are working on it hard i bet ... but with so many different systems its very hard to find a balance at the moment ... give them alittle more time ...
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Offline Hades55

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2004, 02:24:51 AM »
I think (not sure) the general problem comes from the fact that the program speak straight to the hardware (procesor,grafics)
and this some times create conflicts with windows.
I strongly believe that if we can run AH IN a Window these problems will stop.
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Offline oboe

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2004, 06:14:40 AM »
Is all CTD behavior the same?    Since patch 5, I have been booted from the game several times with a "Host Connection Lost" box - when I click OK on the message, I'm thrown out of the game and back to the desktop.

I've never seen this before; it started with Patch 5.   Would you guys consider them CTDs?

I also have minor stuttering that started with patch 5, and the textures seem to load visibly slower than before.    Also my frame rate is way down at the tower - in the 20s-30s - used to be pretty stable at 75.


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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2004, 07:33:57 AM »
No oboe, thats a networking issue not a CTD.

Now I had a CTD problem that was a bearcat over the last week.

Cause of it was a single .bmp in my squad folder that was slightly wrong in size or something.

Anyway, every time I hit the deploy button, instant CTD (Crash to desktop)

Thought perhaps dx 9, got the dx9 buster, reinstalled, same problem.

Thought perhaps video drivers.
LOL this one was sweet. Old drivers removed, cleaned, and all of a sudden my system would no longer open the new ones.  "incorrect rpc stub" error.


So I ended up booting up with the 3.5 disk, stick in the 98se cd.

Navigate to "oldmsdostools"
deltree c:\

Reinstall everything from scratch.

After 6 hours I'm back up, online, new omega drivers, clean dx9.0b, etc. Only real problem was netscape wouldn't run.

Hit AH, and guess what, same problem.

Frustrated yes, but it was still MY fault, NOT HTC's.

May seem buggy on your end, but don't blame the software when 500 people a night have no problem.

Take the beam out of your own eye before worring about the spec in your neighbors.
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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2004, 08:49:27 AM »
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Originally posted by Ghosth
May seem buggy on your end, but don't blame the software when 500 people a night have no problem.
 


Well........ I know your a cool guy and very helpfull and all that, but saying 500 people a night with no problem is sorta stretching it. On another thread it was stated that the "minority" was having problems.  From what I`ve seen and by indications of what is being said in game, I would say the majority is having problems of one kind or another.
  On one hand it`s not very accurate to do the post thingy claiming the sky is falling and proclaiming HTC as the "Antigamer" as told by prophecy , but on the other hand it`s not accurate to claim it`s the player`s  error when they can run everything but AHII without a glitch, especialy if the player`s system is up to , or above par.
  The fact is Dale, Pyro and crew realizes there is a prob and has stated so. Their also working very hard to find and cure this problem.
  I think the best approach and most productive route for us is to watch the 'Bug Reports" and "Annoucement" sections for any developments and to report any info that is requested that might be helpfull in getting this worked out.
  It will all come out in the wash. :D
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Offline Xjazz

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2004, 09:33:57 AM »
~80fps

@ 1280*1024/16 with minimum grafic settings.

AMD Athlon XP1800 (~1.5MHz)
512M RAM
GF4 Ti4200 64M
SB Live! Value
Win98SE

No CTD's or hungups.
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2004, 09:38:39 AM »
Ah2 is at least as playable as AH1

quitters are losers
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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2004, 09:57:14 AM »
Bubye :)
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2004, 10:23:49 AM »
No CTD's,  No stutters,  very playable frame rate..

All on a hp pavilion 1.1 Ghz,  112 ram,  GF2..  Good stuff!
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