Author Topic: The dirty little secret (Read 2566 times)

TweetyBird · « **Reply #45 on:** July 12, 2004, 05:35:36 PM »

>>1-You don't do any thing but complain about a game you've played less then 2 years, which means you don't have a Clue about the way HT works.
2-you make no effort to help get the problems fixed,i.e. system posted, what was going on when problem arose, etc.
3- you have a habit of attacking HT <<

Oh gosh - please forgive me - then go read the tech and AH2 bug report board. #1 and #3 might be debatable, but #2 is absolutely ridiculous.

Death by pompom.

Fruda · « **Reply #46 on:** July 12, 2004, 06:28:04 PM »

Hey Tweety, ever thought of getting rid of that piece of crap GeForce MX card? AH2 runs very well on a decent setup, which is something that you don't have.

Man, you guys are worse than the people who complain about Steam. You blame coders for the game running like crap, when it's your own fault.

http://www.newegg.com --- Go there, and buy a 9800 Pro. A new mobo and an A64 with a gig of DDR-400 RAM wouldn't hurt, either. In all, that would only be about $700.

And, if you're too stubborn and spoiled to do something like that (even just buying the 9800 Pro would be a huge boost), I can only say this...

Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out

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Fruda · « **Reply #47 on:** July 12, 2004, 06:30:27 PM »

FYI, Civ 3 doesn't run like a champ on many PC's. It crashes quite often on my older PC, mainly because it only has SDRAM. And that's on regular-size maps!

TweetyBird · « **Reply #48 on:** July 12, 2004, 06:54:52 PM »

>>Hey Tweety, ever thought of getting rid of that piece of crap GeForce MX card? AH2 runs very well on a decent setup, which is something that you don't have. <<

Oooh - I guess you're getting the ruler out. No thanks.
Check the bug reports page and system questionare. There are cards and machines a lot better than mine that are stuttering.
Wanna know why. It aint the vdeo card causing the stuttering - its the hard drive access. I suspect its the WAY the program is accessing the hard drive - i.e., some high level routine asking permission or something instead of a low level exception. Would you care to wager on that?

And while you're at it, why don't you write a program, run beta for about a year, release it, then completely redesign a major component. Makes sense to me (in a microsoft sort of way).

TweetyBird · « **Reply #49 on:** July 12, 2004, 06:59:13 PM »

>>FYI, Civ 3 doesn't run like a champ on many PC's. It crashes quite often on my <<

Probably your sound card - or more likely, the integrated sound.
A lot of the newest drivers for the old sound is hard coded and doesn't work well with dirx.

Course your SRAM might not be fast enough for your cpu. Did you get it at WalMart?

Jayclark · « **Reply #50 on:** July 12, 2004, 07:02:28 PM »

I have a Chaintech Geforce 4 Mx 440. Runs all games great. I do have it oced though. Ran AH2 fine before patch 5.

Flit · « **Reply #51 on:** July 12, 2004, 09:42:26 PM »

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Originally posted by TweetyBird
>>1-You don't do any thing but complain about a game you've played less then 2 years, which means you don't have a Clue about the way HT works.
2-you make no effort to help get the problems fixed,i.e. system posted, what was going on when problem arose, etc.
3- you have a habit of attacking HT <<

Oh gosh - please forgive me - then go read the tech and AH2 bug report board. #1 and #3 might be debatable, but #2 is absolutely ridiculous.

Death by pompom.

Ok, ok 2 out 3 tho:D
You really should double your RAM and get a better video card,
it would probably solve 95% of your problems
Maybe the HD access happens 'cause ain't enough RAM left over to hold all the textures. I don't know,maybe not.(I don't claim to know anything about computers)
my setup rocks, and it was 500$ 6 months ago
All I'm tryin to tell you is to be patient.
o thanks for the "death by pom pom" instead of by, say, baseball bat:)

6GunUSMC · « **Reply #52 on:** July 12, 2004, 09:46:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Flit
Ok, ok 2 out 3 tho:D
You really should double your RAM and get a better video card,
it would probably solve 95% of your problems
Maybe the HD access happens 'cause ain't enough RAM left over to hold all the textures. I don't know,maybe not.(I don't claim to know anything about computers)
my setup rocks, and it was 500$ 6 months ago
All I'm tryin to tell you is to be patient.
o thanks for the "death by pom pom" instead of by, say, baseball bat:)

Even with my system i am having the same problem that he is having and so are many others. If there was not a problem, Pyro wouldnt have posted a sticky for this very reason... He is trying to trace a problem. The GF4 440MX is in my backup machine, the card does a fine job producing the FPS, besides the base card is a GF2 MX.

Flit · « **Reply #53 on:** July 12, 2004, 10:52:42 PM »

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Originally posted by 6GunUSMC
Even with my system i am having the same problem that he is having and so are many others. If there was not a problem, Pyro wouldnt have posted a sticky for this very reason... He is trying to trace a problem. The GF4 440MX is in my backup machine, the card does a fine job producing the FPS, besides the base card is a GF2 MX.

it's the way that it's put that bugs me.
It's obvious that HTC is making a sincere effort to find and quash the bugs,there's no reason to flame someone who is trying, when someone is running a borderline machine ( not refering to you).

glacey145 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:42:26 AM »

Since AH2 appeared I've had so much warping in the MA that I have pretty well stopped going there. I get no warping in the training arena. I never had warping with AH1.

The warping occurs in areas of medium/high 'activity'.

Pentium 4 2.9 gz
MSI 845PE Max3
Nvidia Geforce4 Ti 4400 56.72
512MB Ram
WinXP SP1
DirectX 9.0b
Hotas cougar- Uber mod/hoffman pedals
DSL Connection - consistent ping 168
No packet loss on test
All possible background programs closed.

glacey

save · « **Reply #55 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:07:41 AM »

Have same problems as glacey.

Only in "hot" areas do I get warping.

In Warbirds long ago a server update (hardware me thinks) thing helped out similar problems.

Time for a server update ?
I see no problems in traceroutes etc.

Good thing : Video card memory does not get
eaten up any longer for me.

p4 2.8
Ati 9700 pro
Msi Neo-L
1 gig ram

killnu · « **Reply #56 on:** July 13, 2004, 06:12:21 AM »

ive read on this post twice about spending 500-700 dollars on puter parts now to play this game. ive read on other post on how HT didnt add this or that so that the game can be "playable" for those with little lesser systems. hmmm? seems like those 2 arent adding up to me. i myself wouldnt go spend that kinda money to play a "game". thats seems a bit rediculous, imo.

flyingaround · « **Reply #57 on:** July 13, 2004, 07:47:20 AM »

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Originally posted by killnu
ive read on other post on how HT didtn add this or that so that the game can be "playable" for those with little lesser systems.

All I want is playable. And as it is, it's not.
I miss my addiction. I had an easier time getin' over my failed marriage than I am not flying.
ROFL not exactly sure what that says 'bout me tho'

Nwbie · « **Reply #58 on:** July 13, 2004, 11:21:11 AM »

Shane,
Could you list out the processes you have left running?
I have it down to 22, I thought that was good, but you just freaked me out. I didn't think I could turn anymore off.

I am assuming you are running WinXP Home

Thanks

NwBie

TweetyBird · « **Reply #59 on:** July 13, 2004, 12:50:52 PM »

Flit, I wasn't trying to flame HTC. I honestly think they should consider rolling back until they can debug a more efficient way of handling textures. I don't think its a conspiracy to make customers angry, but I do think some tunnel vision is in play. They see the end product, but people who are suffering from bad performance are just seeing a game they are suscribing to and can't play - and all of a sudden. Had I been having performance problems throughout beta, I probably would have done the same as a few people who just walked after AH2 went live. But AH2 was running fine for me throughout beta, the first release, and a few patches . Then BAM - patch5 - can't play.

I think waiting to September is patience. I wonder though, if HTC would have the same patience if there was a problem with my credit card. I sure they probably would, but I think it would be wrong of me to *count* on them having patience. I think its just as wrong for HTC to count on people accepting a beta quality game while they reach their goal. Again, a lot of users will I guess. I mean in the end, this is a business relationship. You pay A and get B. All of a sudden you're paying A and getting a little B