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Offline AKcurly

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2004, 02:47:01 AM »
The nuclear testing which was done in the continental USA was extremely minor by comparison, and that isn't saying much.  Most of the bombs in continental tests were roughly Hiroshima-sized or smaller.  Those "minor" tests are responsible for thousands of deaths and an almost incalculable numer of cancer cases, but be glad that at least they weren't stupid enough to test things like the 10-15 MT bombs in Nevada.  

The tests in May 1953 were the asolute worst in terms of civilian exposure although all through the late '40's and '50's it was bad.  I guess that was a good time to be living on the east coast.  Gives one pause to consider how much our government actually cares about its citizens.



Oh well....at least they never felt the need to detonate a 50 megaton (INSANE!) superbomb just for chest-thumping like the Soviets did.


Given the incredibly massive numer of nuclear weapons which were detonated by the USA and USSR in the 50's (hundreds of them, most of which were far more "dirty" then modern bomb designs), I tend to think that the fear of a nuclear war wiping out humanity is over-rated.  Short-term effects, of course, would be devastating, but if radioactivity from nukes was going to render the earth uninhaitable....we'd already all be dead.  


For an odd sort of fun sometime, tell your friends that the continental USA has been struck by well over 100 nuclear bombs.  See how many of them believe you.


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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2004, 02:49:06 AM »
looks like California, Oregon and Washington had the least.

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2004, 06:55:14 AM »
A related and horrible tale concerns what Teller, Von Neuman & Ullam called "The Super."  "The Super" was a bomb idea cooked up by Teller & Ullam and we know it as the hydrogen bomb.  

After they had the major ideas worked out, they became concerned that it would ignite the atmosphere.  Well, they had two teams check that out: One team was Ullam and an engineer using slide rules and the other team was Von Neuman and someone else using one of the first univacs at princeton.

The two teams agreed there was only a 10% chance the atmosphere would ignite so of course, our government exploded the first hydrogen bomb.  Geez, only a 10% chance that civilization would end. :)

I don't remember all of the story, but it became clear later that atmospheric ignition really wasn't a possibility.

The details are in the excellent book "The Making of the Atomic Bomb" by Richard Rhodes.

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2004, 10:03:20 AM »
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Originally posted by AKcurly

The two teams agreed there was only a 10% chance the atmosphere would ignite so of course, our government exploded the first hydrogen bomb.  Geez, only a 10% chance that civilization would end. :)
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.......:( ......

Now I don't feel so bad about sticking a fire place poker in the fireplace until it turned red-hot, when I was 12, and thrust it in a the center of a BIG stack of newspapers....in my parents living room...just to see what would happen:D