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Yeager · « **Reply #15 on:** July 13, 2004, 02:37:06 PM »

doctors agree to provide an overdose of narcotics
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There you go.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2004, 02:41:31 PM »

astrotardnoma lols

lazs2 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2004, 02:42:12 PM »

I don't know which case is better but say that sob was misdiagnosed and was merely dehydrated from debauchery profuse crying..and while waiting to die he forgot he was dying and took a drink of what he thought was gin but was water.. his recovery was allmost instant...

"whew... glad I didn't take my poison that quack left" says sob.

like I said... I don't care how it comes out... we simply have to define if it is legal to commit suicide or not. We also need to define how much influence and "assistance" is considered depriveing somone of life.

lazs

Eagler · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2004, 02:47:58 PM »

so many ways to kill yourself why would you need a doctor?

so that the insurance company pays out or what?

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2004, 02:50:59 PM »

Self inflicted suicide is a ticket straight to hell for catholics and christians IIRC.

Pain and suffering = honorable God fearing death?
-SW

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:20:18 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Self inflicted suicide is a ticket straight to hell for catholics and christians IIRC.-SW

Yep, kinda like jumping out of a flaming 1400 story building.

Self inflicted suicide, they're all burning in hell, fer sure.

Yeager · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:26:06 PM »

if your religious you can loophole yourself out of that scneario red tail. Sounds like an emotional sickness your dealing with to even conjure up such a statement.

Furious · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:27:10 PM »

Doctor's don't make the decision. You do. Then ask a doctor for assistance.

lazs2 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:39:41 PM »

isn't your decision based on the advise you get from a bunch of incompetent doctors who can't even afford to pay their malpractice insurance?

say they do the autopsy and find that the person was sufering from acute acid reflux and not incurable esophagus cancer after all.... oops...

imagine that law suit.

lazs

Eagler · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:43:31 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Self inflicted suicide is a ticket straight to hell for catholics and christians IIRC.

Pain and suffering = honorable God fearing death?
-SW

for those that believe that, "assisted suicide" would result in the same "ticket" as the "self inflicted" flavor

all pain and suffering = karma payment

that said, its ones personal choice what to do next at that time - not mine, or yours or our wives

slimm50 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:00:00 PM »

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Originally posted by myelo
Consider two situations:

1. Despite a lifetime of clean living, SOB develops a malignant astrotardnoma of the brain. There is not treatment and he will die from this within the year.

Currently he is paralyzed, in pain and unable to eat or drink. Being a competent adult (OK, so this is fiction) he declines any further medical treatment, as is his right. With no fluids he will die of dehydration within the week. The doctors comply and SOB goes to the great distillery in the sky.

(The FDBs consider a memorial mission but never actually get around to it).

Nobody has any problem with this, right?

2. Same situation … but SOB decides he really doesn’t like the idea of lying in a slack-jawed vegetative state for 5 days while he dies from dehydration. So the doctors agree to provide an overdose of narcotics and he slips peacefully and with dignity into the everafter.

Can someone please tell me why situation 2 is worse than 1?

I have a real problem with making the medical profession the official arbiters of death. Talk about yer silppery slope. Ever since there've been physicians their main credo has been to preserve life, period. I can't foretell the future with much accuracy, but I can well imagine this'd lead to something many of you proponents of A.S. never dreamed would come to pass.

Just my humble opinion.

rpm · « **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:17:15 PM »

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Originally posted by myelo
Consider two situations:

1. Despite a lifetime of clean living, SOB develops a malignant astrotardnoma of the brain. There is not treatment and he will die from this within the year.

Currently he is paralyzed, in pain and unable to eat or drink. Being a competent adult (OK, so this is fiction) he declines any further medical treatment, as is his right. With no fluids he will die of dehydration within the week. The doctors comply and SOB goes to the great distillery in the sky.

(The FDBs consider a memorial mission but never actually get around to it).

Nobody has any problem with this, right?

2. Same situation … but SOB decides he really doesn’t like the idea of lying in a slack-jawed vegetative state for 5 days while he dies from dehydration. So the doctors agree to provide an overdose of narcotics and he slips peacefully and with dignity into the everafter.

Can someone please tell me why situation 2 is worse than 1?

Because these idiots have no compassion for the suffering.

myelo · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:37:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
so many ways to kill yourself why would you need a doctor?

Maybe because you're paralyzed? As in unable to move.

SOB · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:59:49 PM »

Lazs, read the following quote from the article:

"The law allows terminally ill patients with less than six months to live to request a lethal dose of drugs after two doctors confirm the diagnosis and determine the patient to be mentally competent to make the request."

It requires a second opinion and the patient must be mentally competent. I'm not sure where you're getting the "don't trust the doctors" stuff.

SOB · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2004, 05:00:38 PM »

And Myelo, you are a hillarious bastard!