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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2004, 02:00:33 AM »
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In 1988 I had 74 speeding tickets. All dismissed.

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wow, you're my hero..... breaking the law with no penalty and bragging about it.

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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2004, 02:02:54 AM »
Does it change anything that I think I was clocked from the air?

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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2004, 02:03:52 AM »
One of my customers manufactures police radar. I don't know if the hand held units are capable of storing info like your speed and a pic of your car but they have larger more sophisticated units and it wouldn't surprise me if they were capable of recording that.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2004, 02:04:52 AM »
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wow, you're my hero..... breaking the law with no penalty and bragging about it.

I was workin for a living, time was money, sue me.
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2004, 02:07:41 AM »
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Hell unless you're going to court with me.. I was doing well over 88.. I mean "HONESTLY" I should be grateful...

But why? If its his job to keep people from speeding.. a trip to the slamer and a $400 dollar ticket will make me crawl where ever I have to go....

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What, are you stupid enough to be going over 88mph over the same stretch under the same circumstances? I'm guessing 'no' here. Cops in general are not your enemy. They realize that people aren't perfect and sometimes need a break once in awhile.
Had you been mouthing off to him and showing all kinds of disrespect, you'd of seen a much more accurate number on your ticket (not to mention the possibilty of being hauled off to jail).
He's hoping you'll be doing the right thing.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2004, 02:12:36 AM »
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I was workin for a living, time was money, sue me.


I remember getting a speeding ticket along with a no seatbelt ticket ( which I was wearing, but took off before the cop got to my car after I stopped) when I was 24, had cancer, living on my own, working full time, flat broke.

I paid the tickets.

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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2004, 02:14:44 AM »
Nuke, you had cancer??!! Wow, I take it you are cancer free then? Real happy for you if so!
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2004, 02:20:13 AM »
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Nuke, you had cancer??!! Wow, I take it you are cancer free then? Real happy for you if so!


yeah, had non-hodgkins lymphoma. I was actually pulled over after driving myself home after a VERY painful bone marrow test.

I seem to be clear so far, 39 years old and kicking.

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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2004, 02:22:32 AM »
Congrats on the health Nuke!
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2004, 02:22:57 AM »
Well, you're still young. Here's hoping you stay cancer free :)
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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2004, 02:29:17 AM »
If you were doing more than 65 MPH the cop most likely did you a favor because in most areas more than 20 MPH over is considered reckless endangerment and has far higher penalties.  In some areas this means an automatic suspension of your license, usually for 90 days.

And yes he probably knew exactly how fast you were going.  There is absolutely no requirement to tell a motorist the maximum speed you clock them at, only how fast you are citing them for.  It is perfectly acceptable to cite a motorist for a lower speed than they were clocked at.


What it amounts to--


Be honest with yourself.  You admit you were speeding.  You hint that you were doing substantially in excess of what you were cited for.  Pay the ticket.


SaburoS--

Why do you assume that the officer has to be lying if his clocked speed is higher than actual speed?  Do you know how lidar/radar units work?  



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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2004, 02:35:54 AM »
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SaburoS--

Why do you assume that the officer has to be lying if his clocked speed is higher than actual speed?  Do you know how lidar/radar units work?  

J_A_B


Bluffing is what I was aiming for. Depends on the circumstances involved.
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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2004, 02:47:29 AM »
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Be honest with yourself.  You admit you were speeding.  You hint that you were doing substantially in excess of what you were cited for.  Pay the ticket.

J_A_B


Hire a lawyer, save your license points, keep your insurance from going up.

Or you can "do the right thing" and get points off your license, a rate increase on your insurance and depending on the company possible cancellation of your policy. If you drive at work, you must also inform your boss or you may violate policy and be subject to termination. It could also be a mark against possible promotion even if you do tell. But hey, the cop was a nice guy just out to help you. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2004, 02:48:48 AM »
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Hire a lawyer, save your license points, keep your insurance from going up.

Or you can "do the right thing" and get points off your license, a rate increase on your insurance and depending on the company possible cancellation of your policy. If you drive at work, you must also inform your boss or you may violate policy and subject to termination. It could also be a mark against possible promotion even if you do tell. But hey, the cop was a nice guy just out to help you. :rolleyes:


maybe just dont speed?

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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2004, 02:53:55 AM »
Saburo--

In any case that question was answered after both of us wrote our posts (I didn't post mine as soon as I wrote it due to leaving the PC for a bit).  BBS topics at this hour don't usually gain responses this quickly.

BLCKMGK--

Police have some discretion in what they cite people for in certain circumstances.  There are several motives for him to give you less than the maximum citation.

One possible motivation is simply that speeding at twice the posted limit on a deserted road at 2AM is substantially less dangerous than doing it in rush hour, and maybe the fine should reflect that in a way a maximum citation would not.

A few other possible reasons for his use of discretion were discussed above.

J_A_B