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Offline Redd

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« Reply #870 on: July 15, 2004, 10:53:06 PM »
Oneman and "the Master" Voss after having a meaningful chat with himselves on the past and future direction of flight sims.











From: John \"OneMan\" Birkes (oneman@nwark.com)
Subject: Re: Strategy Plus Picks WarBirds As Best Online Game for 1996
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Date: 1997/04/08

Blue Baron wrote in article
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: Then I got all reasonable and mature about it and saw it for what
: it was.  WB success is an expression of our success, for certainly WB
: would never have come into existence without AW.  Similarly, if CK ever
: comes to pass it will be an expression of WB's inspiration, and so it
: goes.  TAS?  I hope so.
:

I got it straight from Voss (the Master) that TAS is/was inspired by AW.
TAS was nearly fully conceived when WB went pay-for-play. Otherwise, our
main competition would be Sierra (WW1). Voss still insists that TAS is the
ultimate expression of realism (Screaming Demons be damned) and that our
game depends on the success of yours (AW & WB).

So, I hope you enjoy many years of fruitful endeavor.

John "OneMan" Birkes
Gotta go, sixteen-billion polygons are calling my name
I come from a land downunder

Offline Grimm

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« Reply #871 on: July 15, 2004, 10:54:13 PM »
Dont forget,  some people here think impersanating Military pilots is wrong too.  Voss has that going for him as well.

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« Reply #872 on: July 15, 2004, 10:55:55 PM »
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Originally posted by Wotan
Public ridicule has always been a powerful tool to expose and keep in check those who would otherwise exploit people.

Since the Flight games are fluid in that folks move in and out I don’t see anything wrong with revisiting the issue.

The problem isn’t with those who keep the light on the charlatans but with the Voss "fan bois".

Voss should do everyone favor and just disappear. At the very least he should be man enough to voluntarily withdraw from the wHornets and spare them from the hype. The more they are forced to defend him the worse they themselves look.


My 2 cents...


(dragged over from another thread)

Well Said Wotan

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« Reply #873 on: July 15, 2004, 11:09:59 PM »
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sorry Arlo....you keep repeating yourself...


You say something stupid ... I call you stupid .... you say something stupid .... I call you stupid ..... you say something stupid .... I call you stupid. Yeah. :aok

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« Reply #874 on: July 15, 2004, 11:13:34 PM »
this thread is going for a 1000 post.
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« Reply #875 on: July 15, 2004, 11:16:18 PM »
I say this thread breaks 1500 before HT locks it after saying  "You clueless dolt".




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« Reply #876 on: July 15, 2004, 11:20:28 PM »
This whole thread sucks, about as much as Voss sucks the anal drippage out of a dead hezbollah terrorists ass....
I regret doing business with TD Computer Systems.

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« Reply #877 on: July 15, 2004, 11:21:07 PM »
Did Voss ever tell any of you guys about his movie career?


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« Reply #878 on: July 15, 2004, 11:23:23 PM »
Oh, thought it was this one...


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« Reply #879 on: July 15, 2004, 11:25:08 PM »
I thought Voss starred in the movie Red Scorpion?

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« Reply #880 on: July 15, 2004, 11:27:18 PM »
Slo, tu parti pas? Pourquoi?

 Si c'est vrai, j'ai veux ton email avant, envoyer moi a

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but that part of me died.

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« Reply #881 on: July 15, 2004, 11:27:26 PM »
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« Reply #882 on: July 15, 2004, 11:28:52 PM »
Really, it's the only entertainment on the 'net right now.

I got ripped off by a cyberfriend a couple months ago, for $35. It isn't worth chasing a guy 2000 miles away. Instead I found out everywhere he posts and told the story, and let everyone else decide.

I figure, $35 is a small price to pay to find out about a man's true character. Not that I'd want to pay it 7,000,000,000 times to find out about EVERYONE'S character, but once in a while is OK.

It's not always a sucker play to send money to someone you know only through the internet. You can lose the money, but come out with a better reward by outing a con.

Hey, Westy.

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« Reply #883 on: July 15, 2004, 11:31:46 PM »
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From: Paul \"Voss\" Hinds (vosswars@nwark.com)
Subject: Re: TAS CK AW2 WB

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Well, let's see! I am the head programmer at Pro-Line. I do have a form of
brain cancer, but I am going to out live you all!

Pro-Line has 38 very bright programmers/CADists/etc. working on TAS the
FEW. This wasn't true just a month and a half ago. Things change. I started
a lot of them out by having them put together parts of TAS BoB. True, we
still haven't put all of the pieces together,...yet.

Will the average flier prefer TAS to AWII, or WB? I doubt it. TAS has a
very realistic "handling model." Notice I didn't say "flight model." I am
referring to, not only the flight model, but the ground handling of every
aircraft. Users will have to learn the specifics of aircraft types, cockpit
load, gunsights, radio procedures, even weapon specific ballistics are
included. You won't catch any German 20mm's possessing one muzzle velocity
in one plane, and another muzzle velocity in some other plane. It's the
same round, it flies the same. The cyclic rate of fire may vary, as it
should for specific weapons, but the velocity will remain the same.

I took great pains to make sure that every plane flies exactly as it
should. I went so far as to hunt down specific types and check them out
myself. That isn't easy, and you can still argue that actual aircraft of
the war period had different configurations from planes of today. While
that is true you will find that the essence, or flavor, of each aircraft is
well represented. (When you climb out of the Hurricane make sure you look
for the glycol soaked pants cuff on your right leg )

Technology of the Second World War has been carefully considered, and is
represented realistically. Radar? Well, yes, but not the radar you might
expect. Radar information is related verbally. Yes, TAS includes voice
communications. For people without microphones we have included a default
"Command" and "Intercom" vox command summary. Hit a button and your wingie
will hear your "Break right!" signal blare through his PC speakers (if you
have your radio set correctly). You can even use our built in utility to
change your "Break right" to Top Gun's "Holy ****, it's Viper!", if you're
so inclined.

I have seen furballs in these other sims last for 15-20 minutes, with ever
increasing intensity. I will be surprised to see a dogfight last even a few
minutes in TAS, and there won't be any dead guys killing you a mere minute
after you kill them.

We have weather too. Not just fog, or haze. We have actual weather fronts
that move. Weather can shut down flight operations for a particular field,
and you won't like that! We even have seasons represented. The camo schemes
on your planes will vary (if morale and operational levels permit
repainting) as the seasons change.

Oh, and there's much, much more...

Bear with us, as many have said you would. I have never understood how a
game can be a matter of life-or-death.

I made them all sign NDA's, though, so this ***hole is going to shutup and
sit down.

Paul "Voss" Hinds
Creator of "Tactical Aero Squadron"
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« Reply #884 on: July 15, 2004, 11:45:46 PM »
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AWBrat's writeing reminds me of DokGonzo.


HiTech


Geezuz, HT.

Is running a technology start-up in the Bush Economy not challenging enough and you need to risk having your privates fed into a pencil sharpener for thrills?

A Mutual Friend has invited me to visit in Dallas and inspect his latest sim. And if you persist in this slander, I'll be looking for you too. Since moving to Los Angeles I have started to run with an angry gang of Samoans who have converted to Judaism. When a 350-pound Samoan swears at you in Yiddish it is indeed a scary thing. And they have their own ritualistic ways of meting out retribution - like darts dipped in the venom of scorpions with brain tumors who can fly F-16.

:-)

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