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Offline ghi

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AH2- better than AH-1 but;
« on: July 14, 2004, 12:44:27 AM »
1.   Most of the 109s(without ext, tank) typhoon, La7,5, yaks, are planes for base defence in AH2, How to fly 1-2 sectors with this fuel burn rate!?
 If we want it realistic , don't tell me that the planes above did't have range over 25- 50milles.

  2. Field gun(acs),CV acs lethality too low in AH2, i can fly eassy getting hit by 37mm without damage, over bases or Cv.

  3. The flak panzer was nice toy for base defence, vulcher killer in AH1,now is too hard to hit a slow plane at 300-400fts.

 4. Blood on the cockpit, makes my kids crying, .Why not some intestines and body parts, to make it more realistic?!

 5. fuel can't be porked under 75%

 6. Ater  waiting for  AH2 for more than 2 years, i was expecting to see new planes ,gvs ,Who knows maybe in AH3!!

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Re: AH2- better than AH-1 but;
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2004, 02:33:18 AM »
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1.   Most of the 109s(without ext, tank) typhoon, La7,5, yaks, are planes for base defence in AH2, How to fly 1-2 sectors with this fuel burn rate!?
[/b]Have you tried not flying at full throttle all the time?  Click on the E6B and see what a difference to fuel consumption just backing off the throttle slightly makes.  Fuel management is what it's all about....  :)
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3. The flak panzer was nice toy for base defence, vulcher killer in AH1,now is too hard to hit a slow plane at 300-400fts.
Can't say I've noticed much difference from AH1 - I can still get kills, though I do tend to wait until they are much closer than 300-400, more like 100-150.....(btw, that's yards, not feet!  :p)
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5. fuel can't be porked under 75%
[/b]LOL.... this was done to stop people like yourself from crying about not having enough fuel; rather contradicts what you said in 1. above?
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6. Ater  waiting for  AH2 for more than 2 years, i was expecting to see new planes ,gvs ,Who knows maybe in AH3!!
16 months, I believe, not 2 years.... and HTC said all along there would be no new planes with the initial release as they were concentrating on the game itself.  They will come, but there are still other things to be done too..... have some patience!  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2004, 05:07:48 AM »
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Most of the 109s(without ext, tank) typhoon, La7,5, yaks, are planes for base defence in AH2, How to fly 1-2 sectors with this fuel burn rate!?
If we want it realistic , don't tell me that the planes above did't have range over 25- 50milles.


 I don't know. I find that the Bf109 actually flies longer than it used to in AH1. I can fly a base suppression mission over 40 miles away, fight for at least 20 minutes before having to RTB.

 In the case of Typhoons, Lavochkas and Yaks, it could be problematic - if the pilot insists on flying at military power even at non-engagement conditions. But when climbed to a proper alt and with cruise settings it can fly over enemy base and have some good fights.

 
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Field gun(acs),CV ack lethality too low in AH2, i can fly eassy getting hit by 37mm without damage, over bases or Cv.


 I don't notice any difference.


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The flak panzer was nice toy for base defence, vulcher killer in AH1,now is too hard to hit a slow plane at 300-400fts.


 Nothing has changed with the ballistics or the rate of fire. If such difficulties are induced from the same sources as seen in aerial gunnery, then its a universal problem we have to adapt to.


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Blood on the cockpit, makes my kids crying, .Why not some intestines and body parts, to make it more realistic?!


 I don't think we need intestines and body parts. Blood on the cockpit is enough, isn't it?


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fuel can't be porked under 75%


 It's a good thing.


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Ater waiting for AH2 for more than 2 years, i was expecting to see new planes ,gvs ,Who knows maybe in AH3!!


 I think HTC made it clear that they were out to finish the basic engine first, before adding new things. Also, many of the "aesthetic" elements are still scheduled to be implemented, at least according to HTC.

 I wish for new stuff too, but in the mean while I'm enjoying AH2.

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2004, 05:27:02 AM »
Throttle down and set prop speed to max cruise when not in combat and duration is fine.

Take another plane for long flight times, cutting edge super power maneuverable fighter must have one or two downsides too or it is boring.

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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2004, 06:58:41 AM »
Try reviewing your flying style in your plane of choice. With the new fuel burn in AH 2 you may want to consider taking a drop tank (if available), or checking the flight calculator for best manifold and RPM settings for your chosen aircraft.

Also, bear in mind,  that HTC is attempting to combine the historical performances of various aircraft and their historic performance capabilities into a Flight Simulation/Game that will appeal to folks around the globe and make an entertaining experience for an International Community.

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2004, 07:54:15 AM »
I think the blood and guts part was sarcasm.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2004, 08:12:28 AM »
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I think the blood and guts part was sarcasm.


Me too but I lke the blood.
Think he shoulda just told his kids that a bullet hit a thermos of tomatoe soup the pilot toook along for the ride.

My Daughter is the most "girlie" Girl Ive ever seen in my life.
When she saw the blood the exchnge went kinda like this.

Daughter-"Whats that daddy?"

Drediock- "Blood"

Daughter- "Why is there blood there"

Drediock- "Cause my pilots been shot and when the pilot is shot blood spatters on the windsheild"

Daughter -"COOL!"

Dunno. Probably we just grow em Tougher here in Jersey.

Personally. I wanna see brain matter and body parts flying out of exploding planes :D
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2004, 08:42:45 AM »
My kids had the same reaction as Dred's.  It was that reaction, when seen by my WIFE that caused me some aggravation.  

My wife lived through quite a bit of the Vietnam war as she was 10 years old when they left, just before the NVA entered Saigon in 1975.  She can't stand the Battlefield 1942 or Vietnam game and refuses to let my boys play.  She has a whole different perspective of what war is about than I do.

I respect her wishes (kids not allowed to play) when it comes to games like BF1942 or BFVietnam...but even she has agreed that AH isn't all that bad.
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Re: AH2- better than AH-1 but;
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2004, 09:14:11 AM »
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  2. Field gun(acs),CV acs lethality too low in AH2, i can fly eassy getting hit by 37mm without damage, over bases or Cv.

 


Field Ack over 18 destroyed my engine, with me at 12K alt (I was in level flight in 51 at 300mph). I was actually off to the side of the field over the water. So I disagree with statement 2.

P.S. I cussed out loud cause I did not think it was fair either

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2004, 09:36:28 AM »
Im ok with the blood, except when I trying to land and cant see...  I dont play when my kid is awake.  I would rather be spending time with her,,    Sorry just my thoughts.   There are a bunch of things that I hate about AH2, but its just like everything else,  give it some time and it will grow on you, beside I would rather be playing than bitc.ing.      

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2004, 09:54:57 AM »
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My wife lived through quite a bit of the Vietnam war as she was 10 years old when they left, just before the NVA entered Saigon in 1975. She can't stand the Battlefield 1942 or Vietnam game and refuses to let my boys play. She has a whole different perspective of what war is about than I do.


Curval, sorry to hear your wife had a tough time during the Vietnam war.  I suspect in situations like yours that the blood and guts would be a bad thing and I'm sensitive to that.  I'm lucky that I never lived through a major war, and being in that position I can say that I like the blood as it adds some realism to the game and is better than just the intermittent blackouts.  However, I'm also the guy in Unreal Tournament who would run around with the Rocket Launcher and shoot corpses just to watch them explode.... so I guess to each his own :D

As for the kids, I suppose its all about what you think is appropriate, and I won't speak to that in any way because they are your kids (thank God for that... I have a dog and he is enough).  I grew up in the computer age and played "violent" games for a while so I am probably going to be a little more easy with mine when I have them.  I probably won't let them watch the news though because that is much worse than any game I've ever played  :aok

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2004, 10:46:26 AM »
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1.   Most of the 109s(without ext, tank) typhoon, La7,5, yaks, are planes for base defence in AH2, How to fly 1-2 sectors with this fuel burn rate!?
 If we want it realistic , don't tell me that the planes above did't have range over 25- 50milles.


I'm a full time Yak flyer, and really don't like base defense (I'd rather shoot the other guy near HIS base, while HE's trying to get alt). What I do is this:

Take off at MIL power, climb to 7-10k. Settle in a MAX CRUISE (31.5MP, 2500 RPMs in the Yak-9U) and fly to the target. I usually only bump it back up to MIL when the enemy is in icon range. Fight until I run out of Ammo,  Hit the deck, Egress from the fight at MIL. Once clear, reduce throttle to whatever you need to get home.

By flying this way I feel that I have even greater range than in AHI. The fuel savings by reducing RPMs really helps stretch it out. I have yet to run out of gas, except for one time when I was having a throttle problem and HAD to run out of gas just to land lol.

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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2004, 12:52:33 PM »
Another played out whine.  See all other responses in all other threads with same whines.

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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2004, 01:26:36 PM »
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Curval, sorry to hear your wife had a tough time during the Vietnam war.  I suspect in situations like yours that the blood and guts would be a bad thing and I'm sensitive to that.  I'm lucky that I never lived through a major war, and being in that position I can say that I like the blood as it adds some realism to the game and is better than just the intermittent blackouts.  However, I'm also the guy in Unreal Tournament who would run around with the Rocket Launcher and shoot corpses just to watch them explode.... so I guess to each his own :D

As for the kids, I suppose its all about what you think is appropriate, and I won't speak to that in any way because they are your kids (thank God for that... I have a dog and he is enough).  I grew up in the computer age and played "violent" games for a while so I am probably going to be a little more easy with mine when I have them.  I probably won't let them watch the news though because that is much worse than any game I've ever played  :aok

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Mike,

I'm with you man, the more blood and guts there is the happier I am with respect to video games.  In fact I really wanted to see some Me163s have floods of cautic chemicals occur during start-up occassionally which would eat away the pilot (while sounds of screaming and views of hands waving hysterically were eveident) in AH.

It is the wife who hates that stuff...for good reason.

I really don't think even BF1942 or Vietnam is all that bad but having said that I have had to sit down with my oldest and try to take the "shine" off the whole concept of war and warfare.  Games like these do tend to trivialise it and make it all seem very fun.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2004, 08:16:37 PM »
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I'm with you man, the more blood and guts there is the happier I am with respect to video games. In fact I really wanted to see some Me163s have floods of cautic chemicals occur during start-up occassionally which would eat away the pilot (while sounds of screaming and views of hands waving hysterically were eveident) in AH.



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OMG I can imagine the scene now... as I close in on B17s attacking HQ, my pilot's legs melt off, the screen goes red and the room is filled with ear piercing screams..  Now THAT is a great game!  :aok