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Offline GScholz

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How the heck do you 109 boys do it?
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2004, 07:52:48 PM »
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GUN PODS hurt your abilty to fight ...



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How the heck do you 109 boys do it?
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2004, 09:16:07 PM »
The 109 is not a second rate turner with the pods on. I would entirely agree that the pods do have a negative affect on its low speed handling, but I would not say 'second rate'.

Also, if I wanted firepower, I'd take a 109F with pods. 3 20mms and 1000 rounds of machinegun is hardly a puny loadout.

Sim, what's your ingame handle?

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How the heck do you 109 boys do it?
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2004, 10:47:42 PM »
"guess i dont understand.. you dont have a view hat at all? using keyboard for views while flying???   if so i can see your problem. "



I find using the keyboard (not the default mapping though) to actually be far superior than a view hat.   The default keyboard mapping, however, is terrible.

I mapped trim to my joystick's hat instead of views.


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Offline OntosMk1

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How the heck do you 109 boys do it?
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2004, 03:52:05 AM »
Here's the fix for your Viz problems...
1: find a base that isnt being attacked...

2: Pick a 109 that you want to fly. Lets say the G-6 cuz she's my Favorite.

3: select a runway but DO NOT take off. once OTR press the "[" to zoom all the way out. Then press F-10 to save head poz.

4: Do this with all of your views. Ive found that when looking back unzoom all the way and use arrow keys to "glance" over your shoulder. that way you can see your dead six.

Now as far as gunnery goes. This is what I do. while OTR you need to adjust your gunsight zoom. You know when ya press the "Z" key. Press Z then use the "[" and "]" keys to adjust your zoom. Unzoom just far enough or where you can see your ammo counter. I zoom out even further so i can maintain Viz. Remember, "Lose sight, lose fight" always try to maintain a viz on your target. Oh, and one other thing. Flying with Gunpods or gondolas REALLY trashes the flight characteristics of the ANY 109. If you take them plan on not turning at all. I'll take gondolas on the F-4 and G-10. The G-10's got enough under the hood that you can accelerate away fairly fast one you've made your pass and in they dont harm you too much in the verticle. Gondolas are good for snap shots but they come at a serious price. When going toe to toe with other fighters of the likes of SPits, La7s, Ponies, and all the other "uber" fighters out there make sure you go light. No pods, 30mm in nose, %75 fuel and a DT. Keep the DT as long as possible but when you get in the pewp ditch it and start planning ahead. Try to play in the verticle and pull negative G-loads when you can. The 109 can doing things in Neg. G-land that make other A/C's look stupid. One tactic often used by LW pilots was called the "Stutter Step". It was done to try and get the opponent to over shoot. You climb up then push the nose back down. This bleeds tons of E and if the guy behind you isnt on the ball he'll usually over shoot. You should then Roll out get your speed up then Re-evaluate. ALWAYS have the Alt adv. DONT screw around with Uber planes unless you KNOW you have the advantage. Once you DO have the advantage. FIght like heck to keep it.  DONT get into flat turns...the G-2 isnt too bad but they DONT like them.

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Offline simshell

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How the heck do you 109 boys do it?
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2004, 03:30:49 PM »
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The 109 is not a second rate turner with the pods on. I would entirely agree that the pods do have a negative affect on its low speed handling, but I would not say 'second rate'.

Also, if I wanted firepower, I'd take a 109F with pods. 3 20mms and 1000 rounds of machinegun is hardly a puny loadout.

Sim, what's your ingame handle?

Cheers,


Simplex hubsonfire.

very simple 109f-4 with gunpods vs 109f-4 without them

the one without them should allways win

unless your going GV hunting or buff hunting a good pliot should not need the heavy gun pods which do hurt the abilty to dogfight

not saying you cant win dogfights its just going to make things alot harder

and whats this 150 round stuff AH2 109f-4 109g-2 can hold 200 rounds
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