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Offline JB73

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« on: July 16, 2004, 10:32:39 AM »
yep michale moore again.

just spent the most uncomfortable smoke break. 3 people were talking about how much they learned from that 9-11 movie.

how it made so much sence, and on and on about how real it was.

made me physically upset to my stomach to hear these people talk about it, and telling from what they were saying they have never researched into any of it themselves.

they were the kind of people you see that believe all they read in a magazine, and just take what they are fed as being the only possible truth.

no i didnt waste my breath getting into an argument with 3 dummies that wouldnt know the first thing of real politics.

heck they even said they dont want computerized balloting for the next election becuase then the republicians could more easily "hack" the system and rig the election again. yet the complained about how anyone could use a different balloting system than our local one. the had no clue how people in FL could not read a ballot (they obviouosly have never seen a punch out ballot with the slot you slid it into).


i hate people.
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Re: he wont go away
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2004, 10:36:10 AM »
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Originally posted by JB73
yep michale moore again.

just spent the most uncomfortable smoke break. 3 people were talking about how much they learned from that 9-11 movie.

how it made so much sence, and on and on about how real it was.

made me physically upset to my stomach to hear these people talk about it, and telling from what they were saying they have never researched into any of it themselves.

they were the kind of people you see that believe all they read in a magazine, and just take what they are fed as being the only possible truth.

no i didnt waste my breath getting into an argument with 3 dummies that wouldnt know the first thing of real politics.

heck they even said they dont want computerized balloting for the next election becuase then the republicians could more easily "hack" the system and rig the election again. yet the complained about how anyone could use a different balloting system than our local one. the had no clue how people in FL could not read a ballot (they obviouosly have never seen a punch out ballot with the slot you slid it into).


i hate people.


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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 10:36:37 AM »
You seem to feel pretty strong emotion about this.  Have you seen it?  There seems to be no shortage of people having opinions on things they don't actually know about.  

For the record, I haven't seen it yet and I'm not sure I'll go out of my way to after his thuggery to Charlton Heston in his last movie.  My objection is apolitical.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 10:38:16 AM »
Sounds like word is getting around. Keep us posted!

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2004, 11:02:24 AM »
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You seem to feel pretty strong emotion about this.  Have you seen it?  There seems to be no shortage of people having opinions on things they don't actually know about.  
no i have not seen it, nor will i. i will not let a red cent of mine go toward's his insane babbelings.

to go see it is to promote his ideals and lies. thats all there is to it. if you give money to it you might as well donate to whatever group susan sarandon heads up or whatever.

the onlr reason michael moore is on this planet is to one day fertalize a small plot of ground. i do not wish him dead, nor do i wish harm to him, i am meerly stating that pushing up daisies will be the most significant, and meaningful thing he ever does.



to single out the comment:
There seems to be no shortage of people having opinions on things they don't actually know about i take offense to that, because i choost not to text political debate you people here does not mean i am uneducated in politics.

i find it easier to spend my time doing something constructive than wasting oxygen against soapbox-standing liberals.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2004, 11:04:27 AM »
JB, you've got a cool avatar

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2004, 11:22:50 AM »
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Originally posted by JB73
yep michale moore again.

just spent the most uncomfortable smoke break. 3 people were talking about how much they learned from that 9-11 movie.

how it made so much sence, and on and on about how real it was.

made me physically upset to my stomach to hear these people talk about it, and telling from what they were saying they have never researched into any of it themselves.

they were the kind of people you see that believe all they read in a magazine, and just take what they are fed as being the only possible truth.

no i didnt waste my breath getting into an argument with 3 dummies that wouldnt know the first thing of real politics.

heck they even said they dont want computerized balloting for the next election becuase then the republicians could more easily "hack" the system and rig the election again. yet the complained about how anyone could use a different balloting system than our local one. the had no clue how people in FL could not read a ballot (they obviouosly have never seen a punch out ballot with the slot you slid it into).


i hate people.

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2004, 12:56:43 PM »
Some are still praising Moore? Oh well, here's all I have to say about that:

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2004, 12:58:45 PM »
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they were the kind of people you see that believe all they read in a magazine, and just take what they are fed as being the only possible truth.


As opposed to the people that form opinions strong enough to cause an upset stomach without any firsthand information whatsoever.

Please.. See the movie. Take notes. Document what is false and then debate away. If you don't want to give Moore any money, download the film. I'm sure it can be found.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2004, 01:14:24 PM »
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As opposed to the people that form opinions strong enough to cause an upset stomach without any firsthand information whatsoever.

Please.. See the movie. Take notes. Document what is false and then debate away. If you don't want to give Moore any money, download the film. I'm sure it can be found.


OR...read something that will give you a platform from which you can speak:

F9/11 FACTS

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2004, 01:33:23 PM »
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OR...read something that will give you a platform from which you can speak:

F9/11 FACTS


I saw it. Not because I like that big gas bag but because I think there's something to gain from knowing as much as possible about those with whom you don't agree.

What I can't believe is how many people fail to understand the difference between a documentary and propeganda.

Moore isn't nor ever was a documentarian. He's a propegandist, perhaps the best since the days of Hitler. Of course, documentary sounds way better when you're giving away Academy awards.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2004, 01:38:30 PM »
...and strangely enough, some people think a documentary can't be both propaganda and non-fiction at the same time.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2004, 01:51:03 PM »
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OR...read something that will give you a platform from which you can speak:

F9/11 FACTS


how about this:

http://www.worldthreats.com/general_information/F911%20Moore.htm

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

http://moorewatch.com/index.php/C18/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1164665/posts

We can post links back and forth but if you buy into the "Facts" of F911 you need to remove your head from the sand!

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2004, 01:51:26 PM »
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...and strangely enough, some people think a documentary can't be both propaganda and non-fiction at the same time.


Documentaries are designed to inform, not sway. In that sense, no, a documentary cannot be propagandistic. On the same token, propaganda doesn't have to be fictional.

In reality, almost all propaganda contains heavy doses of truth. Some truth mixed in with assumptions, garnished with some tactful leaps of logic combine to create some very potent material indeed.  

propaganda's use of slanted factual information to achieve a goal is what makes it frightening. It's what causes the mobs to rise up. It's what causes entire populations to become scapegoats. It's what creates vehement nationalism.

Mike Moore is certainly up there with Leni Riefenstahl. Only she was prettier.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2004, 02:16:25 PM »
Ken Burns makes Documentaries...

moore makes crap