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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2004, 01:49:49 PM »
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Nah, that'd be FBS

The earlier FBW may have used electrical synchro/servos vs the digital electronics used later.


yes of course....fly by string!. how silly of me :)

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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2004, 02:10:00 PM »
Airbus buying out Boeing? Not in our lifetime. Boeing is a prime contractor for the U.S. in many different facets of aerospace.  Space shuttle, next generation X-planes, Military(Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines,) Titan2,3,4 rockets and satellites, Boeing even profits 20% of its total business due to computers (Mainframes).  We build everthing from surface to air missile transports to airborne and survellience early detect radar.  Boeing's diversification across many aspects of aviation AND aerospace as well as military has kept it strong through its history, not relying strictly on Commericial sales as they have in the past.  Even bids that it loses, Boeing is usually a major sub-contractor for those companies (IE. F-22, JSF)

An article from this weeks Paris airshow:
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CHICAGO, July 12, 2004 – The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] today detailed its media presentations for the July 19-25 Farnborough International Air Show, which include discussions of the transformational 7E7 Dreamliner and Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft programs.

The company’s schedule begins Monday, July 19, at 9:30 a.m. with a briefing by Commercial Airplanes President and Chief Executive Officer Alan Mulally. That session will be in the Radlett Suite of the show’s Media Centre. Also on Monday, representatives from the U.S. Navy and Boeing will brief the media on the Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft program that the Navy recently awarded to Boeing, at 11:00 a.m. in the Media Centre’s Hatfield Suite.

“The Boeing story is about aerospace leadership, and we are looking forward to telling that story at Farnborough,” said Tod Hullin, Boeing senior vice president of communications. “This company is on the move and generating real momentum. Our successes with the 7E7 and the Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft programs are just the latest examples of Boeing executing its strategy of commercial and military balance to lead the aerospace industry.”

Several Boeing-built aircraft will be on display at the show, including the F/A-18F Super Hornet, AH-64D Apache Longbow helicopter and F-15C Eagle, which are scheduled for daily flight demonstrations. Other Boeing products scheduled to be on static display include the F-15E Strike Eagle, C-17 Globemaster III, the Standoff Land Attack Missile, Harpoon and a full-scale mock up of the Joint Unmanned Combat Air Systems (J-UCAS).

Accredited journalists are invited to the Boeing Press Chalet (B6), adjacent to the main Boeing chalet, throughout the week. Boeing will hold a series of briefings on key programs and issues. Each day, media should check the briefing schedule at the Boeing Press Chalet, Boeing Exhibits and the Media Centre for updates.



Also, good news for laid off Boeing employees:
Boeing to bring back more workers

Don't worry about us, we alive and on the upswing commerically speaking,Beetle.  ;)
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2004, 02:23:09 PM »
that was alot of text rip......short conclusion is that Boing is doing well?

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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2004, 02:24:59 PM »
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that was alot of text rip......short conclusion is that Boing is doing well?


Yes, very well compared to 2002 and 2003. Here's the latest status for Year to date on commericial aircraft only, which is a only one facet of Boeings profits. (This does not include the 7E7 orders its received to date)

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July 11, 2003 - Midday Edition   

BCA logs 32 deliveries and 73 orders in June
Customers ordered 73 new jetliners from Boeing in June, while accepting delivery of 32 commercial airplanes, according to the newly updated Boeing Commercial Airplanes Orders and Deliveries Web pages. During the month, Boeing finalized new orders for 45 737s with All Nippon Airways, four 777-300ERs with GE Capital Aviation Services and one 737-800 for a Boeing Business Jet customer, as well as 15 737s and eight 767s for unidentified customers. In June, Boeing delivered 17 737s, five 777s, four 767s, three 757s, two 747s and one 717. Korean Air received its first 747-400ER Freighter and was revealed as the customer for a total of three such airplanes on June 13. In addition, Air China received its first 737-700 on June 17. This year-to-date, Commercial Airplanes has taken orders for 112 and delivered 145 jetliners.

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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2004, 02:26:54 PM »
again.....alot of text but that must mean that there has been alot of orders :aok

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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2004, 02:27:13 PM »
Incidently, we have 1,400 job openings, for hiring off the street as well.

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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2004, 02:28:23 PM »
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Incidently, we have 1,400 job openings, for hiring off the street as well.


need anyone with marketing skills abroad?....europe to be precise?

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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2004, 02:32:30 PM »
210,000 employees get stock payout in July in addition to the EIP that more than 85,000 nonunion employees received in Febuary 2004 ( 8.0 days of incentive pay)  

We're on track for this year to have a pay out of 15 days for Feb. 2005.
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2004, 02:37:55 PM »
*sniff* swims away perplexed eschewing obfuscation

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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2004, 02:41:51 PM »
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need anyone with marketing skills abroad?....europe to be precise?


Couldn't tell ya Nilsen, but check out the employment tab at http://www.boeing.com
My search results netted:
Note, this is both Internal, and External jobs.

Your query " (status='Open Internal Only' or status='Open Internal and External') matched 1573 job postings.
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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2004, 02:45:42 PM »
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l Airbus buy up Boeing? Well… not yet. Besides, the spectacle of Ripsnort having to sell his guns so he can relocate to France to live and work is beyond my powers of imagination!
:rofl


The invasion already started some years ago
Ask Ripsnort to list the  3D CAD/CAM software they use at boeing :)

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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2004, 02:47:28 PM »
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The invasion already started some years ago
Ask Ripsnort to list the  3D CAD/CAM software they use at boeing :)

Dassault!  Funny though, Airbus chose not to use CATIA for many years, they recently got onboard with CATIA...

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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2004, 02:51:01 PM »
I know it's Dassault I was yanking yer chain :p
The funny thing is that one day Dassault will make more money with the software :D

I don't know what software they use at Airbus.

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2004, 02:51:44 PM »
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yes of course....fly by string!. how silly of me :)



nope...fbw you can chop up other kites good with the right sort...string is for wussies


actually the avro arrow had a fbw system...

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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2004, 02:52:54 PM »
Many people had had reservations about this since that airshow disaster with the A320 many years ago.

As I understand it, the crash wasn't the result of fbw, but the onboard computer insisting that the plane was landing, over riding the pilot insisting that it was not.:D

Another Boeing feature popular with many piolts is control feedback.  They like laying their hands on the yoke while autopilot is engaged, and feeling what the airplane is doing.

If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.:aok