Author Topic: Is the USA becoming more militerised? (Read 946 times)

AKIron · « **Reply #15 on:** July 19, 2004, 11:42:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
If Fox News really hasnt explained the difference I will enlighten you. They would have to be secret police to be relevent in regards to a police state. You know. Like all the 100s of thousands of guys in the Department of Homeland security. And they need to be legally empowered to spy and comit espianage against the population of the country. You know like the Patriot Act.
beat cops dont make a police state. Especially when the moneys to hire them are distributed piece meal accross the country.
Just in case Fox News doenst explain the difference.

What would you know about Fox News? Your government won't even let you watch it. Maybe you don't need any police at all to live in a police state. Just a repressive government and a society of sheep.

anonymous · « **Reply #16 on:** July 19, 2004, 12:31:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
If Fox News really hasnt explained the difference I will enlighten you. They would have to be secret police to be relevent in regards to a police state. You know. Like all the 100s of thousands of guys in the Department of Homeland security. And they need to be legally empowered to spy and comit espianage against the population of the country. You know like the Patriot Act.
beat cops dont make a police state. Especially when the moneys to hire them are distributed piece meal accross the country.
Just in case Fox News doenst explain the difference.

you need to read up on patriot act and dhs staffing.

Pongo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 19, 2004, 01:04:46 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
What would you know about Fox News? Your government won't even let you watch it. Maybe you don't need any police at all to live in a police state. Just a repressive government and a society of sheep.

When I see a rational man that equates hiring more police with becoming a police state. I know that propoganda is at work somewhere. Since you apperanlty have a sub cranial subscription to fox news I assumed that was the source of your dishonest ignorance.

AKIron · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2004, 01:17:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
When I see a rational man that equates hiring more police with becoming a police state. I know that propoganda is at work somewhere. Since you apperanlty have a sub cranial subscription to fox news I assumed that was the source of your dishonest ignorance.

Like I said, I'm not concerned about it. However, for the sake of argument I'll play Devil's Advocate. There are many in the US that already consider it to be a "police state", particularly among those in areas of abject poverty. From their perspective additional police (was it 100,000 additional police for NYC alone that Kerry was proposing?) are only further repression by a nonrepresentative government.

A police state has to have a force unanswerable to the will of the people capable of instilling fear but not necessarily secret.

vorticon · « **Reply #19 on:** July 19, 2004, 01:19:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
When I see a rational man that equates hiring more police with becoming a police state. I know that propoganda is at work somewhere. Since you apperanlty have a sub cranial subscription to fox news I assumed that was the source of your dishonest ignorance.

actually he specifically said he didnt...

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Personally, I'm not really concerned about it, but what do I know?

vorticon · « **Reply #20 on:** July 19, 2004, 01:23:49 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
What would you know about Fox News? Your government won't even let you watch it. Maybe you don't need any police at all to live in a police state. Just a repressive government and a society of sheep.

we can still get it through the internet...

police state is-
A state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the people, especially by means of a secret police force.

n : a country that maintains repressive control over the people by means of police (especially secret police)

AKIron · « **Reply #21 on:** July 19, 2004, 01:26:32 PM »

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Originally posted by vorticon
we can still get it through the internet...

police state is-
A state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the people, especially by means of a secret police force.

n : a country that maintains repressive control over the people by means of police (especially secret police)

Well, guess ya need at least one cop then.

Pongo · « **Reply #22 on:** July 19, 2004, 01:38:32 PM »

"There are many in the US that already consider it to be a "police state", particularly among those in areas of abject poverty."

That is pretty good advocating..the devil would be proud.

X2Lee · « **Reply #23 on:** July 19, 2004, 02:55:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
"There are many in the US that already consider it to be a "police state", particularly among those in areas of abject poverty."

That is pretty good advocating..the devil would be proud.

you dont see a cop even if you need one
police state my arse

anyone who thinks its so has thier head up thier ass....

or aint from america.

fact.

AKIron · « **Reply #24 on:** July 19, 2004, 03:01:32 PM »

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Originally posted by X2Lee
you dont see a cop even if you need one
police state my arse

anyone who thinks its so has thier head up thier ass....

or aint from america.

fact.

Tell that to those that burned down LA a decade ago, besides, donchya know, they're secret.