Author Topic: Wise words that makes me proud to call myself Swedish (Read 1519 times)

Curval · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2004, 07:13:30 PM »

Didn't Arnold call the Swedes "girley men"?

Seriously though...equating anti-Americanism in Europe to anti-semitism is a strech, even in today's political climate. Kill a few million more Americans and get a long history of persecution, then..........maybe.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2004, 07:24:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
... Why cant peole just see it for what it is and not make it into anything more?

likely because some weaker/frightened minds process information from an external source and internally form a mental image or understanding (which in some cases doesn't reflect the reality) and when someone comes along that challenges this internalized image with reality, the emotional conflict that arises is more easily displaced by making absurd assertions that serve only one purpose: to perpetuate and vaildidate this distorted perspective at all cost. It's the easiest thing to do.
When it becomes commonplace it is akin to 'mob mentality' or what psychology termed 'mass psychosis'.

demaw1 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2004, 09:23:42 PM »

HORTLAND re; post

Thank you for the chance to read such an article. Yes seeker is right although we never stood by doing nothing,[ I wonder where seeker thinks the british recieved the food they ate, the materials for the war effort...ahh forget it]

We didnt do near as much as we could,there are 2 reasons for that.
1. America was never prepared for war much less a world war pre 1955,even the korean war. We had to gear up our selves plus we had to worry about japan.We as a nation could not believe Europe was going to do it again,it was impossible to believe.

2.Xtoronto,seeker,manic,nilsen.bozon,nash and others,YOU are the reason we didnt get in earlier, you are the reason we werent more prepared. Your views were the 2nd reason so many people died.Because of people just like you we were helpless to move faster. People with your views made up 2o plus percent of Americans,but added to the other 35 plus percent that didnt want to fight for europe again[btw I dont blame these people at all] our hands were tied.But now people with your veiws make up 40 plus percent of Amercia ,and make no mistake the blood will be on your hands.Europeans are a stiff necked people,and still very foolish if they believe europe is not heading for war...This time we wont be able to help out because we have to many people in this country that would stab us in the back.

Rino · « **Reply #18 on:** July 20, 2004, 09:32:38 PM »

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Originally posted by demaw1
HORTLAND re; post

Thank you for the chance to read such an article. Yes seeker is right although we never stood by doing nothing,[ I wonder where seeker thinks the british recieved the food they ate, the materials for the war effort...ahh forget it]

We didnt do near as much as we could,there are 2 reasons for that.
1. America was never prepared for war much less a world war pre 1955,even the korean war. We had to gear up our selves plus we had to worry about japan.We as a nation could not believe Europe was going to do it again,it was impossible to believe.

2.Xtoronto,seeker,manic,rino,nilsen.bozon,nash and others,YOU are the reason we didnt get in earlier, you are the reason we werent more prepared. Your views were the 2nd reason so many people died.Because of people just like you we were helpless to more faster. People with your views made up 2o plus percent of Americans,but added to the other 35 plus percent that didnt want to fight for europe again[btw I dont blame these people at all] our hands were tied.But now people with your veiws make up 40 plus percent of Amercia ,and make no mistake the blood will be on your hands.Europeans are a stiff necked people,and still very foolish if they believe europe is not heading for war...This time we wont be able to help out because we have to many people in this country that would stab us in the back.

Well I realize that you must have a point, I'm just baffled as
to what it is. I was born in 1962 and enlisted in 1981.
What exactly I did to cause our unpreparedness for conflict
escapes me at the present time.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2004, 09:43:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Rino
Well I realize that you must have a point, I'm just baffled as
to what it is. I was born in 1962 and enlisted in 1981.
What exactly I did to cause our unpreparedness for conflict
escapes me at the present time.

Rino, you are much more charitable than I. I am not sure demaw has a point. He didn't present anything that is even remotely coherent or lucid in that post.

demaw1 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 20, 2004, 09:47:02 PM »

Rino re; point

I truly ask your forgiveness as I messed up and put you down when I meant staga. Sorry and thanks for bring it to my attention

demaw1 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 20, 2004, 10:11:40 PM »

Xtoronto...re;..point

X if I was to bet, Id say you know what my point is.As I have said before, I believe you are well educated with book learning,maybe even elitist or on your way.

Just in case,Ill give you a challange that no one has yet to take up no matter how snotty they were about what I said.

If you can find 1 lie in what I have said I will post that Id lied.
If you can convince me I have misled or misrepresented something I will change it.
If I have resorted to name calling in a fit of flustration[ must be more than 1 word] I will ask forgiveness.
Now if you want me to explain something I will try but will not be successfull every time.
As far as coherent or lucid goes many people will understand what I am saying,therefore I cannot be responsible for what you think is or is not coherent.

Lizking · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2004, 10:29:42 PM »

1 lie: demaw1 is NOt your real name.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2004, 10:29:43 PM »

demaw, the paragraph in the above post that starts with '2', is difficult for me to understand. I can't follow what it is you are saying.

If you have the time, and you feel it is important please consider rewording your thoughts. I would be pleased to respond to you.

cheers, 'till tomorrow!

demaw1 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 20, 2004, 10:42:34 PM »

Lizking re ; lie

Lizking you turkey you may be right, I will need to think on this a while. Must at least be a way to spin it.

Xtoronto ok I will try tomarrow good night.

Maniac · « **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2004, 03:12:53 AM »

What disturbs me the most is the Americans that reads Hortlunds post and then take it as gospel...

Anti-Americanism have always been there, its djust now in the recent years that you have started to take notice, and actually care about what other nations think about you.

And this is indeed a good thing.

Nilsen · « **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2004, 03:45:45 AM »

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Originally posted by demaw1
2.Xtoronto,seeker,manic,nilsen.bozon,nash and others,YOU are the reason we didnt get in earlier, you are the reason we werent more prepared. Your views were the 2nd reason so many people died.Because of people just like you we were helpless to move faster. People with your views made up 2o plus percent of Americans,but added to the other 35 plus percent that didnt want to fight for europe again[btw I dont blame these people at all] our hands were tied.But now people with your veiws make up 40 plus percent of Amercia ,and make no mistake the blood will be on your hands.Europeans are a stiff necked people,and still very foolish if they believe europe is not heading for war...This time we wont be able to help out because we have to many people in this country that would stab us in the back.

Oh... Im sorry then. I didnt know this cause i have no access to that kind of information, You should write a book and spread the truth to the rest of the world to enlighten it. Thank you for spreading you wisdom to us mere mortals.

Rino · « **Reply #27 on:** July 21, 2004, 03:53:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Maniac
What disturbs me the most is the Americans that reads Hortlunds post and then take it as gospel...

Anti-Americanism have always been there, its djust now in the recent years that you have started to take notice, and actually care about what other nations think about you.

And this is indeed a good thing.

When you anti-americans start using logic instead of emotion
to define your stance, then I'll start "caring" what you think.

Oh, and as a preemptive move, yes you are Maniac.

Saintaw · « **Reply #28 on:** July 21, 2004, 03:56:32 AM »

When is this going to stop, I wonder...
One of you, just one of you raise your hand (virtualy) if you were in Europe during WWII, otherwise... you just owe to STFU.

BBS posters taking credit from people who actualy did things over 50 years ago ... how much more lame can you be?

Seeker has it right.

Momus-- · « **Reply #29 on:** July 21, 2004, 06:11:26 AM »

I don't know about being proud to be Swedish, those words coming as they do from the biggest Euro-American wannabe on this BBS. You should move there Hortlund, really, your polarised and simplistic worldview would fit right in and I'd much rather you add your seed to the already dumbed down genepool of the american "new right" than stay here and propagate in a continent that you so plainly feel so uncomfortable in.

Tell you what, I'll put up £100 for your airfare on the condition you promise not to come back, ever.

Seeker, thanks for the dose of perspective, good post.