Author Topic: Go Rookks!!! yeehaww (Read 1831 times)

Grimm · « **Reply #45 on:** July 20, 2004, 05:10:33 PM »

I missed this RJO, too bad it sounded fun.

Ever notice after an RJO there is a numbers post here? everytime someone comments (or complains) about the numbers advantage.

I say to anyone that says "its just numbers, not organisation" I beg to differ. Its the Organisation that gets the large turn outs for these events. I challenge you to get to work and try to bring a large number of players on a specific night.

I remember last summer, just before CON, I CiCed "Big Load". This was peak summer when all squads have a slump in attendance. Yet, By Emailing and contacting folks in the arena for weeks in advance, the rooks fielded a huge turn out (350?)

I also Challenge any both the Knights or Bishops to go head to head with the RJO. Id like nothing better than to see our advisaries do something simular to a RJO. Of course if all the Damned pilots showed up, it would be larger than an RJO all by its self.

I also know that most Bishop and Knight Pilots dont know what fun a night like this can be to participate in. Its really a huge change of pace from the average night in the MA.

Congrads GhostDancer and all the Rooks There on another Sucessful RJO.

NoBaddy · « **Reply #46 on:** July 20, 2004, 06:47:22 PM »

...and Grimm...I challenge you to watch the movie I rent for Sunday nites!!!!

BTW, been there...done that (years ago)...the thought of it bores me to tears. Set it up in the SEA or as a scenerio...arrange some valid competition, otherwise it will still just be a numbers game and ego massage to me. If that's what it takes for you folks to get your cookies....by all means, go for it. But, for heaven's sake, don't break your arms patting yourselves on the back....it did take arena odds of 100+ to do

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Widewing · « **Reply #47 on:** July 20, 2004, 06:51:59 PM »

Well, the wheel turns, doesn't it? When I logged on last night there were 189 Bish, 128 Knit and 122 Rook.

About 90 minutes later, Hee Haw reruns were on TV Land and Bish numbers immediately tanked down to 97....

My regards,

Widewing

NoBaddy · « **Reply #48 on:** July 20, 2004, 07:24:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing
About 90 minutes later, Hee Haw reruns were on TV Land and Bish numbers immediately tanked down to 97....

simshell · « **Reply #49 on:** July 20, 2004, 08:00:26 PM »

its not the organization people are madd about its the HUGE! numbers with the organization

RJO wont get my respect till they do it with numbers not going over 25% over the 2 place country at the time

here comes the rook fans with there sticks coming to beat me over the head demanding i praise there great organization of 3 to 1 over us

i like to call it a Mass very well planned gangbang

Grimm · « **Reply #50 on:** July 20, 2004, 10:16:30 PM »

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Originally posted by simshell

RJO wont get my respect till they do it with numbers not going over 25% over the 2 place country at the time

Hows it go.... Been There, Done that.

In fact, I CiCed I believe the Second or Third RJO and we actual were the 2nd place in the numbers game. We were pushing for a reset and did just that in fact.

RJOs dont have to be about resets. Some Guys will remember the huge B17 HQ Raid that had launched around 100 B17s (before formations) or a Mini RJO "AM, FM" With a large attack in Zeros and Wildcats.

The Entire RJO Experience is working together and squads supporting each other in MA. It builds community and Its really a lot of fun and a great change of pass.

Widewing · « **Reply #51 on:** July 20, 2004, 11:35:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Grimm

RJOs dont have to be about resets. Some Guys will remember the huge B17 HQ Raid that had launched around 100 B17s (before formations) or a Mini RJO "AM, FM" With a large attack in Zeros and Wildcats.

Oh yeah, I remember that RJO, about 2 1/2 years ago. The Rooks put up about 100 B-17s, and that was BEFORE we had 3 plane formations. I flew escort and it was truly a sight to behold.

I also remember several RJOs where we had less players than one side, and we still rolled them back. That's the difference teamwork can make. Defined mission goals, solid tactics and back then, the Rooks were the smallest country, but the root core of Rooks had many exceptional pilots. Every tour back then showed the Rooks to have a considerable advantage in K/D vs the Knits and Bish. Now, with the Rooks usually having a manpower advantage it's hard to tell if that has changed or if it hasn't, is it based upon numbers or skilled pilots, or both? I suspect that numbers have kept the K/D lopsided, but go back two years ago and the Rooks, barely able to muster 100 players during prime time, were a tough bunch to tangle with.

This tour:
The Rooks have 60242 kills and have been killed 48079 times against the Bishops.

The Rooks have 55460 kills and have been killed 47935 times against the Knights.

Tour 27, back when the Rooks were usually outmanned by 50%:
The Rooks have 66641 kills and have been killed 59679 times against the Bishops.

The Rooks have 62577 kills and have been killed 58255 times against the Knights.

Go back a year ago to tour 42 when the Rooks finally had parity or better and the numbers skewed even more.

The Rooks have 122774 kills and have been killed 95352 times against the Bishops.

The Rooks have 100083 kills and have been killed 84013 times against the Knights.

Notice that the Knights always did notably better than the Bish, even in tour 42:

The Knights have 111649 kills and have been killed 105785 times against the Bishops. Even in the current tour, where the Knits are almost always outnumbered by the Bish: The Knights have 44213 kills and have been killed 42230 times against the Bishops.

There's several years of the data available and it certainly shows a trend. However, it's impossible to factor exactly how numbers skew the scoring. Why? Because, even when outnumbered, both the Rooks and Knits have consistantly scored better than the Bishops.

Do we have any statisticians here who can discern a specific pattern? I mean beyond the Bish simply being kinda sucky!

My regards,

Widewing

ghostdancer · « **Reply #52 on:** July 21, 2004, 09:49:28 AM »

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Originally posted by NoBaddy

BTW, been there...done that (years ago)...the thought of it bores me to tears. Set it up in the SEA or as a scenerio...arrange some valid competition, otherwise it will still just be a numbers game and ego massage to me. [/B]

You know I like the idea .. sort of like a country versus country duel. Pick a map, objectives, and date and then have it in the SEA.

This has possibilities. Let me see what the Special Events schedule is and then discuss it with the other CMs (btw I am the CM Corp C.O. for the SEA) and see what we can come up with.

I think you idea has some merit Nobaddy. Who would I contact on your country (what squads) to further look into the possibility of doing something like this?

NoBaddy · « **Reply #53 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:33:43 PM »

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Originally posted by ghostdancer
I think you idea has some merit Nobaddy. Who would I contact on your country (what squads) to further look into the possibility of doing something like this?

Geez...don't let it get around.....I gotta rep to maintain!! As the former Damned x0No (executive officer/ non organization), organized stuff generally gives me hives. The folks I see most often using the dreaded "O" word in Knitland are the FB's.