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Offline Halo

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« on: July 20, 2004, 10:03:40 PM »
Just finished Dale Brown's new book, Air Battle Force, which focuses on remotely piloted vehicles and drone battles in the near future, with much emphasis on a huge underground air base in Nevada.

Does such an underground air base exist?

How many underground air bases are there in the world?  Where are they?

Don't compromise any classified information, but if there is any unclassified information about such underground air bases, especially any in WWII that might be Aces High material, bring it on.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2004, 10:04:31 PM »
Dude, the black choppers are on the way, just for you bringing this up/

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2004, 10:12:03 PM »
I've read two of his books, Fatal Terrain and Tin Man.

Albeit tolerable reading for a 5 hour plane ride, all in all, Dale Brown's work makes Clancy look like Tolstoy.

If the story about a vigilante cop in an indestructible body suit(Tin Man) proves true, then and only then should you start looking for underground bases.

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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2004, 10:15:24 PM »
Germans had underground airbases in WWII (well storage "hangars" and the planes could roll right out and lfy away)


dunno about anyone having any now.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2004, 11:21:21 PM »
If ya haven't read his first/early one "Flight of the Old Dog" yer missing his best work imo.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2004, 11:37:31 PM »
FOTOD is not only his best, but the DOS game was a great systems sim too!

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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2004, 11:42:41 PM »
The Suisses have underground air bases inside mountains:cool:
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2004, 11:51:02 PM »
you been reading the National inquirer?
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2004, 11:59:23 PM »
They do have underground hangars, and tunels where they carry the F5s suspended on a crane sliding on a rail on the ceiling.

They take off on highways, have roads crossing their runways with "train style crossing guard", have live shooting ranges in the middle of lakes, on the flank of a montain...

Pretty neat, space is everything in Swizerland. Would liked to be a sunday pilot over there (they have part time pilots, no enolisted pilots IIRC).:D :cool: :D
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2004, 12:00:31 AM »
Area 51 has flying saucers stored underground for reverse engineering purposes.:D



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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2004, 12:53:53 AM »
Sorry Halo, I've been drinking and had a bad day.  Meant no disrespect.  

It's an interesting question.  I'm sure there are underground air bases somewhere on this Earth.  It's probably not beyond our technology.

JB73 is right about German underground facilities.  They had lots of underground operations.

JB73, do you have a link for the airfields underground?  Where did you hear about them, if you don't mind my asking?  I know V-2 rockets were built underground .  



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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2004, 05:07:02 AM »
Didnt the japanese have some caves in WW2 that they could land in and take off from?.............or did i just read that in a fictional cartoon in my youth?

I belive Norway has some F16 hangars inside a mountain.

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2004, 07:09:43 AM »
Yeah, Brown's writing has been panned before, but I like to read speculative stuff about potential future conflicts.  After all, speculating about and preparing for future conflicts is basically what war planners do without the stilted dialogue between fictional heroes and heroines.  

In Air Battle Force, Brown acknowledges the help of Beale AFB recon people, Air Force Plant 42 at Nellis AFB, and Indian Springs Air Force Auxiliary Field on his "incredible research trip."

His presumably fictional underground air base is Battle Mountain Air National Guard base in north-central Nevada with a supposed 12,000-foot runway "in the middle of nowhere, with no air base around the monstrous strip of reinforced concrete."  And no control tower.

Like his imaginary super B-52 in Flight of the Old Dog, this super plane is the EB-1C Vampire bomber, a highly modified B-1 that can be flown from the ground with no crew in the aircraft.

True, Brown is not Tom Clancy, and Clancy is not a writer for the ages either, but both have made good careers out of bringing to life present and potential future weapon systems for the general public.  

If you're reading this thread, you'll enjoy Air Battle Force.  It's at your library as well as local book stores.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2004, 07:19:41 AM »
Speaking about authors...W.E.B. Griffin...."Brotherhood of war "series and "The Corps" series offer some excellent reading in this ones opinion....

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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2004, 07:36:29 AM »
Yeah, really enjoy W.E.B. Griffin.  Also Martin Caidin, Walter Boyne, James Michener, and John Toland.
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