Author Topic: Socialism (Read 1399 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #75 on:** July 22, 2004, 02:51:04 PM »

ok... so gun control is really less or the same in norway... so I don't get how is superior or inferior. It would appear that gun ownership for citizens is not in the least a bad thing... would you agree? How is it that other eros seem to feel that guns cause crime? Norways example would seem to indicate that gun ownership is neutral or an advantage... that gun control causes or at best, doesn't help reduce crime. Your crime rates are lower than many euro countries with very strict gun control.

The cost for the remmington is about right.

from what I read doesn't norway produce oil and timber as the main exports? that is what supports your socialism.. you spend 9% of your gnp for health care and have nothing like our severity of lawsuits against doctors or it would quadruple.

so how much for a gallon of gas? Do you have any idea of how much of an increase Americans are willing to pay for a gallon of gas in order to fund healthcare? I would say nothing... it will have to be jammed down our throats or behind our backs.

I don't think either of us knows what life is like in the others country. What is important to you is not to us and vice versa. I also think that socialism works a lot better in a country that is more of one race and mind. I actually like the diversity of peoples here and think it is one reason we do so well.... the input from so many different types of people.

Thing is... I like it here. It works well for me... I would like it more with less socialism. America is very good for certain types of people.... socialism is good for certain tyupes of people

I will never be the type that socialism is good for. Make sense?

lazs

Nilsen · « **Reply #76 on:** July 22, 2004, 02:59:53 PM »

I makes perfect sense that people want different things.

Im gonna do a Ripsnort now:

"

Over the past century, Norwegians have proved adept at making the most of their rich natural resources.

Norway is a leading producer of aluminum, magnesium, Ferro-alloys and chemicals. It is one of the major suppliers of crude oil and natural gas to Western Europe.

A combination of hydropower and extensive forests has created a thriving pulp, paper and lumber industry. Norwegian skills and know-how in energy development are in great demand all over the world.

Norway's merchant fleet ranks among the world's largest and the seas around the coastline yield a harvest of fish that formed Norway's earliest export industry.

The exceptionally harsh weather conditions in the North Sea have placed Norwegian oil companies in the vanguard when it comes to new technology for deep-water exploration and exploitation. The rich oil resources have also made Norway a rather wealthy country. The standard of living is high and the average GNP per capita is one of the highest in the world."

What separates us when it comes to guns i think is that many americans have them for self defence, we use them for hunting. Of course you also use them for sport and hunting, but i think its the main diff.

beet1e · « **Reply #77 on:** July 22, 2004, 03:00:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
In the USA I can go outside in January in shorts and a golf shirt and play 18 holes, and still be considered sane. (in AZ anyway) You can't do that in Oslo.

Maybe in 10 or 15 years you will, but not now.

Great! Erm... what's the skiing like in AZ?

I'm still trying to decide whether to retire to America or Norway...

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #78 on:** July 22, 2004, 03:17:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
I makes perfect sense that people want different things.

Im gonna do a Ripsnort now:

"

Over the past century, Norwegians have proved adept at making the most of their rich natural resources.

Norway is a leading producer of aluminum, magnesium, Ferro-alloys and chemicals. It is one of the major suppliers of crude oil and natural gas to Western Europe.

A combination of hydropower and extensive forests has created a thriving pulp, paper and lumber industry. Norwegian skills and know-how in energy development are in great demand all over the world.

Norway's merchant fleet ranks among the world's largest and the seas around the coastline yield a harvest of fish that formed Norway's earliest export industry.

The exceptionally harsh weather conditions in the North Sea have placed Norwegian oil companies in the vanguard when it comes to new technology for deep-water exploration and exploitation. The rich oil resources have also made Norway a rather wealthy country. The standard of living is high and the average GNP per capita is one of the highest in the world."

What separates us when it comes to guns i think is that many americans have them for self defence, we use them for hunting. Of course you also use them for sport and hunting, but i think its the main diff.

Amazing.
Now imagine how great Norway would be without socialism slowing them down. It wouldn't be the EU, it would be the United States of Norway.

Nilsen · « **Reply #79 on:** July 22, 2004, 03:28:24 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Amazing.
Now imagine how great Norway would be without socialism slowing them down. It wouldn't be the EU, it would be the United States of Norway.

United Cities or United Counties of Norway .....no states here

nah...better stick with things as it is.

Furball · « **Reply #80 on:** July 22, 2004, 04:21:44 PM »

i agree with lazs on one thing - national healthcare. It does suck, the couple of weeks i spent in hospital under the NHS nearly killed me til i got transferred to a private ward. Who wants to share a ward with 6 others that is, filthy, noisey and generally ill equipped?

Still.. its good for those that are unfortunate enough not to be able to afford healthcare insurance - as a last resort i suppose. At least there is an alternative.