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Offline Shuckins

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« Reply #90 on: July 23, 2004, 10:42:59 PM »
Thanks dmaw, appreciate that.  

By the way, left a list of books on the Crusades in the thread Allah is Greatest for ya.

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« Reply #91 on: July 23, 2004, 10:53:54 PM »
I'm hoping most of you never have a chance to push that button.

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« Reply #92 on: July 23, 2004, 11:00:50 PM »
What is frightening is that we may see these events played out in our lifetime.

God forbid.

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« Reply #93 on: July 23, 2004, 11:03:05 PM »
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I'm hoping most of you never have a chance to push that button.


yup. Better hope no one nukes me or mine and I have one or more to lob back.

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« Reply #94 on: July 24, 2004, 12:19:30 AM »
I dont think it will be 2007. How about 2005

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« Reply #95 on: July 24, 2004, 12:26:14 AM »
demaw,

I figured it wouldn't happen before 2007 because it will take at least that long for Americans to become complacent again...which is always when our enemies strike.

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« Reply #96 on: July 24, 2004, 12:34:39 AM »
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demaw,

I figured it wouldn't happen before 2007 because it will take at least that long for Americans to become complacent again...which is always when our enemies strike.


Who doesn't want to relax and be free from worrying about some wacko fanatics trying to kill us? Somebody has to do the worrying though, they have my support.
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

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« Reply #97 on: July 24, 2004, 02:07:23 AM »
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I sure am glad to see you being so noble about the death of
200,000 Americans nilsen.  Not like you have to worry about the
possibility of your family getting vaped.

     As far as assumptions go, aren't you assuming that the folks
of the middle east are NOT supporting the terrorists?  Since I'm
not seeing any groundswell of revulsion from our "pals" in the
ME, I'm thinking most of them could care less how many Americans
die.

     There was no shortage of "friends" telling us how evil we were
to invade Iraq, funny how little is said concerning Al Queda.  We
apparently had all the world's sympathy till we actually started
reacting to 9/11.  Only victims get sympathy and support huh?


All i can say is LOL. You dont read news or pay attention to what happens around you at all do you?

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« Reply #98 on: July 24, 2004, 02:41:49 AM »
I cant vouch for anything I am going to say, you all will have to make up your own minds.I was listening to a radio program driving home the other day.The guest were the senior senator and att.genl of texas. Seems they and others in texas were tired of the border problems. They said many thousands of terrorist were crossing the border into  texas and arizona and have been moving into small and medium size towns. they are doctors,dentist,professonial people along with blue collar types.Guess the texas rangers were given  the job of keeping an eye on the ones they know about.The senator just that day had been given the ok to talk about this from someone.There is some kind of fight going on between the goverment and texas over the border. texas wants to close it.
  Also a retired fbi and cia agent have written a book about the missing suitcase bombs [15].They have traced many of them to the u.s. Some entity in Russia sold them to the terrorist about 2 years ago [ they believe it was russian mafia] I guess.Bottom line, they believe somethings going  to happen first of next year.Just repeating what I heard

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« Reply #99 on: July 24, 2004, 02:50:52 AM »
Must be GS, there was nothing but errors in his post. Except for how he feels about what i say cause everyone is entiteled to an opinion. What he says about Al Quaida not an opinion but he is statig facts that are wrong.

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« Reply #100 on: July 24, 2004, 02:54:04 AM »
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I cant vouch for anything I am going to say, you all will have to make up your own minds.I was listening to a radio program driving home the other day.The guest were the senior senator and att.genl of texas. Seems they and others in texas were tired of the border problems. They said many thousands of terrorist were crossing the border into  texas and arizona and have been moving into small and medium size towns. they are doctors,dentist,professonial people along with blue collar types.Guess the texas rangers were given  the job of keeping an eye on the ones they know about.The senator just that day had been given the ok to talk about this from someone.There is some kind of fight going on between the goverment and texas over the border. texas wants to close it.
  Also a retired fbi and cia agent have written a book about the missing suitcase bombs [15].They have traced many of them to the u.s. Some entity in Russia sold them to the terrorist about 2 years ago [ they believe it was russian mafia] I guess.Bottom line, they believe somethings going  to happen first of next year.Just repeating what I heard


Fact or fiction? None of us know. The story about the missing suitcase bombs are old and may actually be correct. Lets pray the bombs are not missing.

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« Reply #101 on: July 24, 2004, 03:39:48 AM »
I started trying to read the whole thread then got kinda bored with it all. But in the spirit of pretending to be the POTUS after it got nuked by militant muslim terrorists ... the following seems evident:

The people will want blood (just like everytime our soil's been attacked in the past). The fact a nuke was used will undoubtedly cause many to call for equal measure. But in reality, it doesn't matter if they used a nuke or a thousand and one terrorists went on a killing spree with butter knives. You've got a really big stick.

   a: If you give them blood, later they'll say you went too far.
   b: If you don't give them blood, they'll say you're impotent.
   c: Whatever choice or tactic is chosen, you probably won't be
       president next term.

So that pretty well takes domestic politics outa the pic.

So then .... what we have here is escalation of world tension caused by extremists bent on irradication of everyone who isn't a fellow extemist. Nuking capitals will probably make everyone nervous (not just Middle East potentates) and it may cause all the sheiks to tow the line but the crazy holy men will simply martyr the dead and keep stirring the jihad pot. IF you get away with one nuking that don't mean it'll end the thing, at all. And additional nukings will just end up leading to someone, somewhere, with a button we don't control .... pushing it.

Americans haven't been well loved or respected by much of the world since around the time of the Vietnam war. AAMOF, that's usually one of the battlecries - "Remember VietNam!" Yet the security of U.S. citizens and the responsibility of protecting U.S. soil from all forms of attack pretty much demands a swift and unmistakable response. It demands a policy set before the nuke even got detonated. And this policy better damned well not be set by foreign governments.

That's right. May as well release a hundred as well as one. And yup ... everyone that didn't decide to unite against terrorism should be taken out.

Make the policy known. Make it simple and easy to understand. Make it as certain as the rising sun. If a nuke is detonated on U.S. soil .... any nuke .... anytime .... we launch. Better not be on our watermelon list. Thank you.

And you do it .... no debate .... no waffling .... no waiting. Big boom here .... well, they're on their way. Jihad is over. Welcome to a brave new world that glows in the dark.

Someone said .... nukes aren't worth a damn if they're used. They sure as hell aren't worth a damn if everyone knows you WON'T use `em. So there you go. M.A.D. II. That's how it works. :D
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« Reply #102 on: July 24, 2004, 03:44:51 AM »
Yup. So don't fug up. :aok

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« Reply #103 on: July 24, 2004, 03:55:58 AM »
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Americans haven't been well loved or respected by much of the world since around the time of the Vietnam war.


I would like to correct you here Mr. Remember back in the days after 9/11 including when action was taken in Afghanistan? You had everyone on your side and you still do...below the surface of the political games beeing played. It was when the Iraq mess started that things got bent out of shape. And even the recent report stated that Iraq did not have anything to do with 9/11.

Oh cod....here i/we go again :D
So tired of this subject and the thread wasnt even about this in the beginning.

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« Reply #104 on: July 24, 2004, 04:05:12 AM »
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I would like to correct you here Mr. Remember back in the days after 9/11 including when action was taken in Afghanistan? You had everyone on your side and you still do...below the surface of the political games beeing played. It was when the Iraq mess started that things got bent out of shape. And even the recent report stated that Iraq did not have anything to do with 9/11.

Oh cod....here i/we go again :D
So tired of this subject and the thread wasnt even about this in the beginning.


Neh. Too much waffling, not enough getting together and getting the job done. Doesn't matter. Simple policy. Fug us again and the game is over. Suggest all parties rethink their stances.

Gotta play the nuke game the way it was meant to be. And if it leads to the inevitable destruction of the globe, well ... that's how the game panned out. We're crazy cowboys, man. You don't wanna fug with us, people. We'll throw nukes around like they were promotional frisbees at a Lakers game. Just sayin', Mohammed. Better not. :cool: