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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2004, 02:03:16 PM »
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That upsets me a bit Storch, because I told everyone I could who your son was and said "Hey, whatever you think of Storch, xxxxx is his son so be nice to him, he's new and just getting started in AH". I guess they didnt listen, sorry about that.


Thanks Grits you probably doomed the dude! :)

I don't think anyone was mean to him because he's my son I think there are some of us who are mean to noobs.  I exclude myself from that category I always go out of my way to orient any new guy.  I'm a dik to the rest of ya's from time to time but never the new guy.  That's like eating your young, while it may be easy it's really counter-productive.

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2004, 04:23:43 PM »
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Hey. Don't look at me! I think it was YOUR deoderant. :D
D'oh!  :eek:
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2004, 06:40:10 PM »
Everyone here makes valid points, the Combat Theater has changed a lot in the last year in a half since I started playing in here.  Problem is that everyone can make arguments on how "they" should change the CT, but no one steps up and tries to.. Actions speak louder than words.... I will give it to BUG, his intentions are good but some times he comes off a little harsh...

I have tried myself to improve the CT with multi squad missions that everyone could join in... but when it comes down to it everyone has to cry about flight time, no enemies they can engage in 5 seconds, and how the mission is just to pork a base or bang a bridge.  So I stopped planning them.

Also, we have limited planes in our inventory.  So the setups can't be as perfect as we all would like them.  Seems like everyone is worried more about what the other guy is flyiing then just trying to figure out what they can do to improve their flying.  Yes I believe that the P-51, La-7, N1k, Spit and the Tiffe are Ubber planes... but they are in Aces High and we should be able to fly them.  The IJN inventory lacks the most I think, but I don't think the we should penalize the guys that like the blue planes just because of that.  Most of the guys that fly allied in the PTO don't fly the plane the way it should... ergo you get killed.  Just as the axis should fly their planes to there STRENGTHS and not just cry because the allied extend... and yes I have flown IJN... and have gotten blown out of the sky in it... but because of my own fault not the fault of the other plane.  If this is the case where everyone just wants to complain about planesets why not just enable the P-40B for both sides and let your ACMs speak.  

I remember a couple of months ago a guy critized me for HOing him, most of you that fly with me or aginst me know I don't do that, just because you loose your advantage because of it.  Anyway, I came in on his six and he never knew what hit him.. went down in a ball of flames... and all he did was complain how I HO'ed him... I think the lack of training and the knowledge of the planes stems some of the frustrations in the CT.  

I am actually glad they got rid of Channel 1, or so I have heard, but that is just my opinion.  If you want a channel just tune to channel 200 and you can trash talk all you want... with out all of the rest of the community seeing it... I mean it looks bad for us as a community as a whole when new people see that...

Right now I don't have any suggestions on ways to improve the CT,  AH2 is still in it's bug stage, so things won't be up to speed anytime soon so I think we just have to live with that the CT is just a limited planeset dueling arena... You have a choice to fly it or not...

Lastly, the 325th hasn't left the CT, we are just in a regrouping stage in our sqaud.  We had a lot of key people have to quit for certian reasons. So we decided to bone up on some training and some other squad things.  I didn't feel we were as effective as we should have been in there, with JG54 being so big and going up against the 880 with their team work... Yes we do have a dedicated sever on Hyperlobby that is password protected, so we can do some training on there... but hopefully soon we will be opening it to the public.  We are going to rotate the map every so often and when Pacific Fighters comes out we will add that to our maps.


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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2004, 07:54:22 PM »
personally i hate to say this but.  i think we are going to lose alot of blue boys to Pac fighter's Il2.  The bigger inventory of Japanese and American planes will be alot more appealing to them then AH's.  Also the fact that there will be alot more people in some rooms on hyperlobby than the CT i think will just make the CT die.
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2004, 08:07:42 PM »
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What has happened too the CT? Ayear ago the would be up to 50 people on a saturday night. Tonight there was 9.

I think AH2 has a lot to do with this.  People want to learn the new system, and the best way to do that is with your favorite plane in an arena where you'll meet enemy planes quickly.  That has always been the MA.  Combined with this, one of the big draws of the CT has been its maps, and we don't have any of those yet (again, because of AH2).  Actually, I'm not sure that they have  the Pizza Map in the MA, which used to drive a lot of disgruntled folks into the CT.

When all of this gets sorted out - and it looks like that may be a six month process - will we still be here?  Certainly there's a cadre that will.  It's up to us to keep it going long enough to outlast the transition.

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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2004, 08:10:48 PM »
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personally i hate to say this but.  i think we are going to lose alot of blue boys to Pac fighter's Il2.  The bigger inventory of Japanese and American planes will be alot more appealing to them then AH's.  Also the fact that there will be alot more people in some rooms on hyperlobby than the CT i think will just make the CT die.


Maybe ... maybe not. IL2 still doesn't handle many players online. Skuzzy's modeling new crap and is asking for suggestions.

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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2004, 08:20:36 PM »
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personally i hate to say this but.  i think we are going to lose alot of blue boys to Pac fighter's Il2.  The bigger inventory of Japanese and American planes will be alot more appealing to them then AH's.  Also the fact that there will be alot more people in some rooms on hyperlobby than the CT i think will just make the CT die.


Have you played IL-2 on line?  It is tough tough tough tough tough.  I play so that when I come into AH my skills are honed a little better.  Also as Arlo has stated you will never have the number of players that are possible in the CT.  Oldman is right it will take a few months to sort it all out but sorted it will be.

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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2004, 09:27:05 PM »
We have the P-38J Vs A6M5 right now....

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2004, 10:24:05 PM »
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Have you played IL-2 on line?
yes. got my bellybutton handed to me about 5 times online today and yesterday.  i still AH CT is going ot lose alot of Hog Boys to Il2 Pac fighters.  Just by looking at the screen shots i would think atleast P6e would be impressed.  I am in awe  about Il2's FM and gunnery.  OM is right for now.  AH has more cability than Il2 for the time being.  Hyperlobby for all we know could upgrade along with pac fighters to allow more people in rooms.
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2004, 11:05:18 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2004, 02:17:25 AM »
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  • The camraderie within the H As will indeed bring CT players together. Hell ... even dipwads like Bear76 and DrWeevil may be able to overcome their genetic deficiencies. (Heh ... gdr)[/B]
Like I said, being a regular side switcher, I already knew the guys on both sides were pretty much all good guys before I joined the Hells Angels. I dont have any personal grudges against any CT player (no, not even Hawk despite how much I disagree with him on some issues), but before the Hells Angels, some of the Allied/Axis only guys did. I dont think they do now.

Now when Hells Angels members go to the CT and split up into their sides, even in a pitched battle, you know the guy on the other side alot better than before, and it doesnt become personal. Heck, I enjoy killing Hells Angels in the CT, its kinda like wrastlin' with your brother. That cant be anything but good for the CT.

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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2004, 07:56:52 AM »
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The VF-17 Jolly Rogers seem to about to be dead, because hardly no one in the squadron is on, but me and Arlo.  Last Year was good old days, but this year? Blah.


I've actually tried to get on this month several times, but have always found the CT with around 10 players or so (haven't seen any squad members).  The few hours I have logged are in the MA, but I just don't find it fun flying without the squad.  I may just be flying at the wrong times though (verry little on weekends due to life, usually around 9-11pm EST on week days).

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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2004, 09:46:00 AM »
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The VF-17 Jolly Rogers seem to about to be dead, because hardly no one in the squadron is on, but me and Arlo.  Last Year was good old days, but this year? Blah.


You know Rafe you are right about that VF-17 is basically dead. We have had several guys who for one reason or another haven't logged an hour of flight time in a long time. Many due to hardware, others due to moving and others due to increased work load and family.

For me it has been a combination of several things but thats not the focus of this thread.  So let me get it back on focus.

Skull mentioned that he hates the Pac setups...well fine do like everyone else and don't play them because they aren't what you want to see. Its your $15 a month and I respect that but at the same time understand we are severly limited in the way we can put those same setups on.

Others have said they get tired of early war setups. So do I but I find they are fun for a change even though we are again severly limited in the planes and maps.

This is a transitional stage for AH and in this time we all need patience as things get hashed out. We as a CT Staff are working and trying to come up with new ideas and the Terrain team is doing all they can at the moment to revamp maps and have them available. So until we get new aircraft and a new terrain editor then we are stuck with what we have. There are other games available and they are what I break the monotony of AH with.

Hopefully we can help you guys through this time and see what happens in the future.
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2004, 11:22:58 AM »
I know that when Pacific Fighters gets rolling here in a few months it will be a purchase for me no matter what just because of the US Navy aircraft. For now I find myself gravitating towards Target Rabaul some and trying AH2 offline till I get comfortable with the new admin controls.
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2004, 11:56:01 AM »
Every couple of months I download Targetware to give it a try. I dont find it all that attractive, I dont know what it is, it just doesnt do it for me.