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« Reply #165 on: July 29, 2004, 10:50:21 PM »
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No, just pointing out one side consistantly has an unfair numerical advantage. As for the solution, I don't have one.


The point I'm making is, the only solution is to burn one player to satisfy another. It's been a problem, for some, for WELL over a decade. The only solution I've ever heard, and watched it fail miserably is to segregate the players to country. You want to talk about a change that will kill a game like yesterday, try segregating.

I remember a year ago when rooks had their ars handed to them nightly. And this is my other point. It's a cycle, it has no time limit as to when it will change, but it will. These cycles usually last weeks – months. But sooner or later Bish or Rooks will be crying that Knights are over-whelming the MA, and vise versa. You just have to ride the cycle, and know it will also happen again.

There are a LOT of players (me for one) who prefer to play for the underdog side, just as there is those who only want to be on the winning team. The underdog players will migrate to the side with lower numbers, which will change the momentum. Then the winning team players will follow and that is when it becomes over whelming as it seems to be now. And again, the underdog players will again change teams, and the winning team players will follow. It doesn’t happen day to day, more like month to month or quarter to quarter. I’ve seen it last as long as a year, I’ve seen it last as long as a couple weeks, but it always changes. Again, you just have to ride the cycle out

There’s another way to look at it, which I learned to adopt in the same situation, it’s makes for a target rich environment. ;-). Take off from farther healthier bases, and rack up scalps.

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« Reply #166 on: July 29, 2004, 11:07:21 PM »
tis simple the rooks are outnumbered because you're friendly neighborhood 4 eyes is a Rook and they all want a piece of mah! they want their arses handed to them by a blind bat!

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« Reply #167 on: July 30, 2004, 12:12:33 AM »
Hordes suck, people that fly in hordes suck, games where people fly in hordes SUCK.  This is all IMO of course.

Hored = Bored, for all sides involved, again IMO


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« Reply #168 on: July 30, 2004, 06:55:47 AM »
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« Reply #169 on: July 30, 2004, 07:42:48 AM »
I found a solution that is working until a better idea comes along.

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« Reply #170 on: July 30, 2004, 04:32:02 PM »
I'm a Knight and I have to say I really don't mind being outnumbered from time to time (we do outnumber others occassionaly).  Most of the time we aren't outnumbered that badly, and often we hold our own despite bad odds.  

On the other hand, lately, too many Knights have spent too much time fighting each other.  I doubt they'd do this as much during happier times, and I can see how things can get frusterating, and people can start taking it out on each other.  Unfortunately, this tends to create an atmosphere where people are even less likely to want to fly with us.

I'm not trying to play the Saint, as I've also indulged in a sarcastic comment or two, I'm just saying that if we all laughed about the situation instead of arguing over it, then our heads would be in the game more, we'd kill more, and have more fun.

I'm sure someone else must have said similar things, and so I apologize if I'm being redundant.  I just didn't have the time to sort through 100+ messages ;)
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« Reply #171 on: July 30, 2004, 04:38:28 PM »
OMG you guys are still posting about this??

who cares anymore everyone can go rook for all i care! seems like the side to be on now,hey then you can all chase me all day and night long ill be on the knights, it will be easy to find me just look for the single green dot on your maps:rolleyes:

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« Reply #172 on: July 30, 2004, 04:53:11 PM »
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Sir I have not sent it in, and I prefer to not send it in. You should be getting and email today or tomorrow per your request. As I said this was very shortly after AHII became required and tempers seemed to be running abit high. As to not responding to threats well, I understand as we are kindred spirits in that. As I made some comments, on the public channel in AHI, about g00b one night, I found myself apoligizing, also on the public channel in AHI, the very next time g00b and i were online! Kept checking and waited for him to come on in fact. I had recorded our engagement and looked at it later and the way I was flying said it all  g00b just simply out flew me on that occassion!!! g00b

I wish you well Sir and appreciate anyone that can and will take responsibility for their actions, words, and deeds. SIR

P.S. Should we meet in the skys of AHII I hope I win!!!!....... or at the very least make your palms sweat, and your heart beat just abit faster LOL


Gosh Wrag, you really are a decent person.  It's too bad we got off on the wrong foot. I'm sorry you received the unwarranted abuse.  Whether it was me or my nephew is not important. No doubt you didn't deserve it, regardless of the source.  Please consider this my sincere, humble, and complete apology.
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« Reply #173 on: July 30, 2004, 04:57:28 PM »
Numbers werent always fair in WWII were they?

Stop whining about rooks having more players.  Besides, half of them are little newbie kids just looking for some excitement.  It's not like they even have an understanding of the concept ACM.

Relax and go play your little game.
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« Reply #174 on: July 30, 2004, 07:11:39 PM »
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I was on when the Rook numbers jumped way up and they hit A48 big time.  Fought there and managed to rtb to A1 with 3 kills but could see from the numbers that A48 was gone.

Right aftert A48 got taken went up from A1 with a squaddie and jumped a bunch of Rook's coming outa A50 and fought with em all the way to A43.  Got lucky and again landed 3 kills.

Reupped from A1 with an added squaddie (3 of us now) and went hunting again and jumped a flight of about 6 or 7 P38's low and inb A43 from A50.  Was great fight but got shot down this time LOL.  Got em all to drop their ord and furball with us.  Think we managed to get 4 of em.


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« Reply #175 on: July 30, 2004, 07:35:33 PM »
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Gosh Wrag, you really are a decent person.  It's too bad we got off on the wrong foot. I'm sorry you received the unwarranted abuse.  Whether it was me or my nephew is not important. No doubt you didn't deserve it, regardless of the source.  Please consider this my sincere, humble, and complete apology.


IMO, Wrag is a top-notch individual.  He may whine from time to time (g00b Lgay7 encounter) and he may sing a bit too much on VOX , but he is one hell of a wingman n' squaddie!  Good to see you two getting along now.  

now if only someone could teach me to type, speel, and use grammmar correctly....

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« Reply #176 on: July 30, 2004, 08:02:12 PM »
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IMO, Wrag is a top-notch individual.  He may whine from time to time (g00b Lgay7 encounter) and he may sing a bit too much on VOX , but he is one hell of a wingman n' squaddie!  Good to see you two getting along now.  


I feel that my squad is greatly blessed to have a pilot of the calibre, and character of Wrag.  Smells a bit funny, but has a heart of gold.  AND you do NOT want to get 'em singing on range chan.  Bad 'nuff his squaddies have to hear it.

Yuppers, Wrag one of the good guys.  


I was online w/ wrag during the "encounter" and I 'member it well.  His recollection is pretty accurate.  Wrag is not a face shooter.  Never really was.
now Scotty5 on the other hand... (sigh whole other story there )

p.s. I'd be smackin' the snot out of my neph. if I found out he cursed someone while flyin' under my cpid.  Just flat out rude.
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« Reply #177 on: July 31, 2004, 02:04:42 AM »
OK that's it you 2, I'm singin the booger song ON LOCAL/RANGE channel about WMScrap and WMLute (aka flyingaround) !!! LOL  (thanks for the compliments guys)

Steve ... I accepted your 1st one in your earlier reply.  2nd one above is most welcome as well but unnecassary Sir.

Sincerely hope there are no hard feelings between us, or me and your nephew.

Hope we all find allot of enjoyment in AH.

(I'm still gonna sing the booger song about one of my squadies some day ON THE RANGE/LOCAL channel!!!!! :D  Muhahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa )

Maybe WMSpin for stealin my kills! (don't really care but don't tell WMSpin!!!! or I can't get away with singin the booger song about him :D )

hmmm hey!  channel 200 has VOX doesn't it????? muhahahahahahahahahahahahhaaa aaaaa
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« Reply #178 on: July 31, 2004, 11:52:00 PM »
160 rooks, 160 knits, 100 bish

bases flashing on rook/knit front 2
bases flashing on rook/bish front 6
bases flashing on bish/knit front 4

hmmmmmmm:o
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« Reply #179 on: August 01, 2004, 06:50:56 AM »
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160 rooks, 160 knits, 100 bish

bases flashing on rook/knit front 2
bases flashing on rook/bish front 6
bases flashing on bish/knit front 4

hmmmmmmm:o

What does the number of bases flashing have to do with anything? There could be 100 people fighting over those 2 bases and 10 milkrunners making the others flash.
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