NYT admits its liberal bias

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by AKIron
It's also a skill unmastered by far more on the left than the right.

Based on the readership of the NYT, compared to say..... the Washington Times,  I'd say you were mistaken.

[GRUNHERZ]

Sorry MT. But that doesnt fly.

Its beyond abusrd that you take that as some general analogy. You know that, or at least you should.

But of course, as usual you are trying to minimize the importance of the satement, or at least deflect the discussion to something else entirely.

But back on topic.

One of the nations most important newspapers basically admits to open political bias and preference of certain viewpoints and you simply shrug it off as nothing of importance.

Funny coming from a person, you, who made such a big deal about the credibilty of news sources in recent discuissions...

[AKIron]

Not all that read the NYT are lefties but I'll concede that NYC is left of center.

[midnight Target]

Go look up 'analogy' Grun... then get back to me.

Rip's analogy meant exactly this :

If admitting liberal bias is refreshing than admitting murder is less guilty.

No analogy there... no sir. <--- this is sarcasm

[Ripsnort]

^^^^^^^^^^

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
What does it mean to you, besides refreshing honesty?  If a man admits a murder, does that make him less guily of the crime?

No MT.

The point he made was that admitting guilt does not make you less guilty.  That was only an analogy to the paper's admission of bias.

But I understand that you need to obfuscate the issue by inventing some sort of non existant analogy of murder to liberaloism because quite simply this is an embarrasing artyicle for you  whjo made such a crusade abiyt criticizing the vakidty of news sources... You need to deflect the discussion.

[Momus--]

The US media is generally corporate in bias, not "liberal". This is blindingly obvious to everyone on the planet except "conservative" americans apparently.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Momus--
The US media is generally corporate in bias, not "liberal". This is blindingly obvious to everyone on the planet except "conservative" americans apparently.

Of course, you could be wrong too

While most of the journalists, like many Americans, describe themselves as "moderate," a far higher number are "liberal" than in the general population

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000517184

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Momus--
The US media is generally corporate in bias, not "liberal". This is blindingly obvious to everyone on the planet except "conservative" americans apparently.

Plenty of those in your "generally" that are clearly left of center. Only the liberals can't see that.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by hawker238
Then why did you post it?

In the hopes that imbeciles like yourself might wake up... it is wishful thinking Grun

[GRUNHERZ]

Rip posted it, not me.

[Shuckins]

Well...nothing surprising about this.   It's hardly a revelation.  

The NYT can print whatever it wants.  They're in the business of selling newspapers.  The liberal slant they give to their coverage undoubtedly sells well in New York and on the east coast.  However, this should cause any thinking person to question their pretensions of credibility, since the editors make little attempt to present arguments from the right in a fair and balanced format.

Fortunately the right has it's own newspapers and news networks.  Nonetheless, the last study or poll that I can remember indicated that the vast majority of the employees of the mass media in this country profess to having liberalistic or Democratic sympathies.  

I've always wondered how this could possibly happen accidental.  If true, I find that to be disturbing.  I'm not a conspiracy freak, but I find 80% to be outside the realm of random chance.  Apparently, the same situation exists on many of our college campuses where, according to other sources, the vast majority of professors also are liberal and Democratic.  In a previous thread about this topic, someone made the statement that Democrats were more interested in education and being involved with shaping the lives of college students.  

Balderdash.  Are we to believe that such fierce nobility and self-subsuming purpose belong solely to the left?  I think not.  Apparently, the left has made moves to undercut the possibility of a level playing field in the press and in our institutions of higher educaiton.

[Momus--]

I wouldn't expect you to get it Rippy. Just because a lot of "liberals" work in the media doesn't mean the message put across is liberal in nature. The workers might be "liberal" by your or anyone else's definition, but the owners, proprieters and advertisers are all corporate-conservative in nature and they are the ones who set the news agenda.

Plenty of those in your "generally" that are clearly left of center. Only the liberals can't see that.

Whatever. The Liberal media myth is a smoke and mirrors job based on out of date and out of context surveys that draw the faulty conclusion that since there are a lot of liberals in the media, they must be putting forward a liberal message. Maybe the myth has become so pervasive that even "liberals" half believe it these days, who can say?

If you're genuinely interested in the issue, please read this paper, research the credentials of the author and the folk who commisioned it if need be then come back and comment.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
That the NYT is a left biased and thus unreliable source of news. But fine if you are liberal and to want hear things you agree with.

It's a left wing rag.

Hmmm... are you stating that a paper that has a right bias is more reliable?

[AKIron]

I read half of it just now, no political bias there.  

Originally posted by Momus--
I wouldn't expect you to get it Rippy. Just because a lot of "liberals" work in the media doesn't mean the message put across is liberal in nature. The workers might be "liberal" by your or anyone else's definition, but the owners, proprieters and advertisers are all corporate-conservative in nature and they are the ones who set the news agenda.

 

Whatever. The Liberal media myth is a smoke and mirrors job based on out of date and out of context surveys that draw the faulty conclusion that since there are a lot of liberals in the media, they must be putting forward a liberal message. Maybe the myth has become so pervasive that even "liberals" half believe it these days, who can say?

If you're genuinely interested in the issue, please read this paper, research the credentials of the author and the folk who commisioned it if need be then come back and comment.