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Offline SunTracker

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« on: July 27, 2004, 10:28:31 AM »
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/25/1090693835341.html?oneclick=true

Article says the sinking of more than 200 supertankers can be attributed to 'rogue waves'.  Rogue waves are giant waves that come from nowhere.  

Anyone ever experience one of these?

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EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY NEWS RELEASE
Posted: July 26, 2004

Once dismissed as a nautical myth, freakish ocean waves that rise as tall as ten-story apartment blocks have been accepted as a leading cause of large ship sinkings. Results from the European Space Agency's ERS satellites helped establish the widespread existence of these 'rogue' waves and are now being used to study their origins.

Severe weather has sunk more than 200 supertankers and container ships exceeding 200 metres in length during the last two decades. Rogue waves are believed to be the major cause in many such cases.

Mariners who survived similar encounters have had remarkable stories to tell. In February 1995 the cruiser liner Queen Elizabeth II met a 29-metre high rogue wave during a hurricane in the North Atlantic that Captain Ronald Warwick described as "a great wall of waterŠ it looked as if we were going into the White Cliffs of Dover."

And within the week between February and March 2001 two hardened tourist cruisers - the Bremen and the Caledonian Star - had their bridge windows smashed by 30-metre rogue waves in the South Atlantic, the former ship left drifting without navigation or propulsion for a period of two hours.

"The incidents occurred less than a thousand kilometres apart from each other," said Wolfgang Rosenthal - Senior Scientist with the GKSS Forschungszentrum GmbH research centre, located in Geesthacht in Germany - who has studied rogue waves for years. "All the electronics were switched off on the Bremen as they drifted parallel to the waves, and until they were turned on again the crew were thinking it could have been their last day alive.

"The same phenomenon could have sunk many less lucky vessels: two large ships sink every week on average, but the cause is never studied to the same detail as an air crash. It simply gets put down to 'bad weather'."

Offshore platforms have also been struck: on 1 January 1995 the Draupner oil rig in the North Sea was hit by a wave whose height was measured by an onboard laser device at 26 metres, with the highest waves around it reaching 12 metres.

Objective radar evidence from this and other platforms - radar data from the North Sea's Goma oilfield recorded 466 rogue wave encounters in 12 years - helped convert previously sceptical scientists, whose statistics showed such large deviations from the surrounding sea state should occur only once every 10000 years.

The fact that rogue waves actually take place relatively frequently had major safety and economic implications, since current ships and offshore platforms are built to withstand maximum wave heights of only 15 metres.

In December 2000 the European Union initiated a scientific project called MaxWave to confirm the widespread occurrence of rogue waves, model how they occur and consider their implications for ship and offshore structure design criteria. And as part of MaxWave, data from ESA's ERS radar satellites were first used to carry out a global rogue wave census.

"Without aerial coverage from radar sensors we had no chance of finding anything," added Rosenthal, who headed the three-year MaxWave project. "All we had to go on was radar data collected from oil platforms. So we were interested in using ERS from the start."

ESA's twin spacecraft ERS-1 and 2 - launched in July 1991 and April 1995 respectively - both have a Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) as their main instrument.

The SAR works in several different modes; while over the ocean it works in wave mode, acquiring 10 by 5 km 'imagettes' of the sea surface every 200 km.

These small imagettes are then mathematically transformed into averaged-out breakdowns of wave energy and direction, called ocean-wave spectra. ESA makes these spectra publicly available; they are useful for weather centres to improve the accuracy of their sea forecast models.

"The raw imagettes are not made available, but with their resolution of ten metres we believed they contained a wealth of useful information by themselves," said Rosenthal. "Ocean wave spectra provide mean sea state data but imagettes depict the individual wave heights including the extremes we were interested in.

"ESA provided us with three weeks' worth of data - around 30,000 separate imagettes - selected around the time that the Bremen and Caledonian Star were struck. The images were processed and automatically searched for extreme waves at the German Aerospace Centre (DLR)."

Despite the relatively brief length of time the data covered, the MaxWave team identified more than ten individual giant waves around the globe above 25 metres in height.

"Having proved they existed, in higher numbers than anyone expected, the next step is to analyse if they can be forecasted," Rosenthal added. "MaxWave formally concluded at the end of last year although two lines of work are carrying on from it - one is to improve ship design by learning how ships are sunk, and the other is to examine more satellite data with a view to analysing if forecasting is possible."

A new research project called WaveAtlas will use two years worth of ERS imagettes to create a worldwide atlas of rogue wave events and carry out statistical analyses. The Principal Investigator is Susanne Lehner, Associate Professor in the Division of Applied Marine Physics at the University of Miami, who also worked on MaxWave while at DLR, with Rosental a co-investigator on the project.

"Looking through the imagettes ends up feeling like flying, because you can follow the sea state along the track of the satellite," Lehner said. "Other features like ice floes, oil slicks and ships are also visible on them, and so there's interest in using them for additional fields of study.

"Only radar satellites can provide the truly global data sampling needed for statistical analysis of the oceans, because they can see through clouds and darkness, unlike their optical counterparts. In stormy weather, radar images are thus the only relevant information available."

So far some patterns have already been found. Rogue waves are often associated with sites where ordinary waves encounter ocean currents and eddies. The strength of the current concentrates the wave energy, forming larger waves - Lehner compares it to an optical lens, concentrating energy in a small area.

This is especially true in the case of the notoriously dangerous Agulhas current off the east coast of South Africa, but rogue wave associations are also found with other currents such as the Gulf Stream in the North Atlantic, interacting with waves coming down from the Labrador Sea.

However the data show rogue waves also occur well away from currents, often occurring in the vicinity of weather fronts and lows. Sustained winds from long-lived storms exceeding 12 hours may enlarge waves moving at an optimum speed in sync with the wind - too quickly and they'd move ahead of the storm and dissipate, too slowly and they would fall behind.

"We know some of the reasons for the rogue waves, but we do not know them all," Rosenthal concluded. The WaveAtlas project is scheduled to continue until the first quarter of 2005.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2004, 10:32:16 AM »
Can't say I have heard of 200 supertankers dissapearing, I didnt even think there were that many to start with.


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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2004, 10:34:13 AM »
There was a great documentary on rogue waves a couple of years ago.  PBS or Discovery, can't recall which.

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2004, 12:06:01 PM »
Didn't you guys ever see "Poseidon Adventure"?  Gene Hackman leading Ernest Borgnine, Shelly Winters, and a bunch of other '70s stars to safety after a cruiseship is capsized by a huge wave triggered by seismic activity?

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2004, 12:42:37 PM »
Obviously a super villain has constructed a monstrous submarine which swallows the tankers whole so he can drain the ships of their cargo, conscript the crewmen into his army, and then rinse/repeat.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2004, 12:48:35 PM »
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Didn't you guys ever see "Poseidon Adventure"?  Gene Hackman leading Ernest Borgnine, Shelly Winters, and a bunch of other '70s stars to safety after a cruiseship is capsized by a huge wave triggered by seismic activity?


From what I remember about 'waves' from seismic activity (earthquakes), huge waves won't happen out in the middle of the ocean. Only when that energy wave gets near landmass does the wave reveal itself.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2004, 12:51:40 PM »
duh, everyone knows giant waves are created by giant squids :rolleyes:
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2004, 12:54:32 PM »
SOB been swimming again?
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2004, 12:54:55 PM »
I thought the lift off and landing of the UFO's from their underwater bases caused them...
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2004, 12:56:47 PM »
This is all Bush's fault for not signing Kyoto. I hope he is happy now!!! Grrr!

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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2004, 01:07:08 PM »
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This is all Bush's fault for not signing Kyoto. I hope he is happy now!!! Grrr!


LOL!  That's classic!

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2004, 02:46:09 PM »
I've never experienced a rogue wave at sea, but I've heard about them. A wave has more energy that you expect. We took 30ft swells regularly on a 378ft High Endurance Cutter in the Bering. You let a 40 ft sneak in that group and you can really feel it when it hits.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2004, 03:17:39 PM »
Question, can you measure the side of the waves from the floor of the ocean by measuring the pressure?  Eg, does the weight of the water above increase and decrease as a wave moves across?
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2004, 03:41:51 PM »
While doing bird surveys at the Barren Islands in the Aleutian Chain we hit some 'moderate' seas for the area. Our mother ship was a 135ft fiberglass sport fisher but we did the surveys in 10' inflateables.

The feeling of being in 25ft rolling seas in a rubber raft isn't something to cherish. When the wind kicked up past 25kts we had to find a cove to land and take shelter in.

Huddling around a fire inside a makeshift leanto with a Coasty a couple of biologists and ornithologists two deckhands/Zodiak drivers and a fellow we referred to as 'grave digger Larry' was interesting to say the least. fifteen hours later we were able to relaunch and return to our mothership.

Even being a lifelong surfer and ocean enthusiast I never had a real respect of the power of the ocean until I started working on the Valdeze spill.

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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2004, 04:04:24 PM »
About giant waves:

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I thought the lift off and landing of the UFO's from their underwater bases caused them...


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fifteen hours later we were able to relaunch and return to our mothership.




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