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Offline memnon

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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2004, 04:03:18 PM »
I know that i am probable going to be shot down for this but i'm going to suggest it anyway.

I supported the PBY and still do but i think the first seaplane we need is the H8K "Emily" and here is why.
 
First of all it can fill multiple roles
 1 armed air transport for troops and supplies.
 2 bomber
 3 torpedo
 4 land and seaplane*
 5and above all to fill in some of the voids for the Japanese aircraft.

 I know the plane was not produced in mass quantites but niether was the F4U1-C or the ME-262 but has that stopped HTC from putting them in the game.

For those of you who think this is a bad decision check out the plane for your self.

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/kawanishih8k.html

*Karnak if you would please let me know if the H8K is cappable of landing on the ground or was it strictly a seaplane.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2004, 04:08:25 PM by memnon »

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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2004, 04:11:28 PM »
Yep, I agree. H8K would be the single best Seaplane to bring into the game. It fullfils the seaplane role, the MARPAT role, and a heavy bomber for the Japanese.

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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2004, 04:18:20 PM »
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Sorry, MARitime PATrol.

HTC mentioned that they were unsure of how many players in the current game would be interested in ToD, so I'm really hoping that they plan on exploring missions like Maritime Patrol and High Speed Recon, missions which would be considered painfully boring by the current crowd, but are very interesting to some of us. -Sik


I enjoy escort missions, chasing off bandits, and getting release after the buff is able to RTB safely. Not many kills, but it adds some realism to the game instread of the constant furball mentality. Having bombers you helped complete their mission is kind of fun to me, call me wierd :)

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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2004, 04:46:18 PM »
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I enjoy escort missions, chasing off bandits, and getting release after the buff is able to RTB safely. Not many kills, but it adds some realism to the game instread of the constant furball mentality. Having bombers you helped complete their mission is kind of fun to me, call me wierd :)


wierd.

I had a lot of fun doing the opposite. In the Squadron Operations event a couple of squadies and I were tasked with scouting for incoming bombers. We were flying FW190s. We found the Forts inbound as they were about to go feet dry. One of our guys got too close and was pounced upon and quickly killed. The remaining two of us were able to fall into formation just outside of Icon Range (short icons in the Special Events Arena) and follow the bombers inland, giving position reports the whole way.

I was Detected around the time the first wave of intercepters hit the buffs, and was chased away. I compressed and augered IIRC  (not much of a FW driver lol) but I had a blast the whole time. That is what makes me think that Recon and MARPAT would also be fun.

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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2004, 04:56:50 PM »
Amphibious? ......yes please :)

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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2004, 05:18:37 PM »
Cannot remember who has said this before, but for the MA.
When a recon plane is within visual range of a task group, the enemy task group shows up on radar (say a bish cv is spotted by a knight recon plane then only knights will see it). The recon plane has to stay within visual range of the carrier for it to stay on the map.
Only works for certain aircraft (recon planes), so they would have more use in the MA than just a 234 flying by trying to direct someone to it.

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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2004, 05:27:20 PM »
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My idea for the MA, would be that Ships that are located by a MARPAT plane (using a target select like we have for Check6 calls) would be visable on the clipboard for a certain amount of time.

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Sikboy, that is a cool idea.  Would love to see it implemented.  Maybe the spotted fleet would stay visible on the map only as long as the scout plane kept tracking it?

Since any plane could be used as a spotting plane, your idea could be implemented any time with existing planes too.

Or, the feature could be available only to future designated patrol planes (but ... they are multimission too).  

Or, recon cameras and other equipment could be available in hangars for certain aircraft including some already available, and this sort of spotlight target fixing on the map could be done then only when aircraft are so equipped for recon.

Could get recon points too for first spotting and calling in prime targets like fleets.
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2004, 04:14:15 PM »
I like that idea for Recon would help in making the game seem more realistic.

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2004, 08:58:56 PM »
Another idea for recons planes in the MA is the state of enemy bases and strat targets: currently you can right click on the clipbboard map and find out the fuel state, radar etc. Take that away for enemy bases and make it only available if a recon mission has taken photo of the base in the last 15mins or so (and landed successfully).

We have a number of a/c that could easiy be adapted to their recon variants (usually be removing some armament and adding the camera(s) instead):

P-38 to F-5
P-51 to F-6
Spitfire F MkXIV to FR MkXIV
etc.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2004, 09:15:37 PM by Pei »

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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2004, 10:41:32 PM »
I'm up for some amphib planes... wouldn't mind seeing something a bit smaller than a Catalina or Emily, though.  Something along the lines of a Blackburn Ripon or Fairey Seafox.  I know the Axis had a couple seaplanes too, but I can't think of the names off the top of my head.  Or a Kingfisher wouldn't be bad.  

But then again, I wouldn't mind seeing a crazy Nazi whirlybird in the skies of Aces High ;)

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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2004, 01:45:54 AM »
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*Karnak if you would please let me know if the H8K is cappable of landing on the ground or was it strictly a seaplane.

It was a flying boat.  It could not land on or takeoff of land.

Well, I guess it could belly land on land but that would be it's last flight.
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2004, 01:57:51 AM »
In my opinion amphibious aircraft will be very usefull at SEA.....

Now there is running second scenario that implements Rescue Missions.

In first Kadesh - we used D3A1 as rescue (it was used just becuase it was slowes aircraft that could easily land in any place). But it was only subsituation for Piper Cab aircrafts.

In BoB we do have rescue -  but for pilot that had bailed over sea it will be very problematic to get with PT Boat for rescue....

Implementation of such plane will give us possibility to use SAR missions in any scenario - mostly PTO - needs such plane for players that bailed over sea.
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2004, 04:44:30 PM »
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 I know the Axis had a couple seaplanes too, but I can't think of the names off the top of my head.


See the F1M posted above :)

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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2004, 05:07:04 PM »
The PBY and other flying boats can be used for search and rescue. .  

for example if you bail and land safely, , ,  u can ask some one to pick you up , ,  so you dont get captured etc, , ,   this would serve as a way for you to not lose all your perk points or something like that  and the pilot can get perks for rescue etc. . .

but they would probably make good targets for vulchers, , ,  but might be fun.

Maybe if they get subs in the game can use them for sub hunting...
 anyway
 
thats my 2 cents.