Author Topic: Amphibious Any one? (Read 1535 times)

McGuinn · « **on:** July 02, 2004, 02:07:50 AM »

I think we should have amphibious aircraft in the future. I don’t want to seem like I’m being pushy. HTC has done a great job getting AH2 out. But it would be a great contribution. I have seen many aircraft with pontoons and the PB-Y Catalina just to name a few. The Catalina spotted the fleet in Pearl Harbor and saved many men who were shot down or have bailed out of their aircraft over the Pacific. I don’t know just a thought.
Keep it up HTC!!

United · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2004, 02:12:20 AM »

There have been many posts about a Catalina, but youve got to think: What can I really do with a Catalina?

Yes, when ToD comes out, a Catalina could be useful in recon missions, if they are implemented at all. But, what uses could you really have with it? You cant rescue downed pilots, theres really no big advantage by flying for 10-30 minutes and saying on Chan2, "Enemy ships at grid X-X-X"

I wouldnt mind seeing a Catalina, but theres too many planes that are needed before a Catalina.

Now, an A6M Rufe could stand a better fighting chance!

-tronski- · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2004, 02:46:55 AM »

I reckon there is somethng interesting in recon "missions". There are easily the a/c available for recon conversions: Mossie, Spitfire, P-38, P-51, Ar-234...

...perhaps some kind of target only available for capture/attack if a recon ship has "photo'd" and returned successfully?

Tronsky

Sikboy · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2004, 10:06:34 AM »

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Originally posted by -tronski-
I reckon there is somethng interesting in recon "missions". There are easily the a/c available for recon conversions: Mossie, Spitfire, P-38, P-51, Ar-234...

...perhaps some kind of target only available for capture/attack if a recon ship has "photo'd" and returned successfully?

Tronsky

My idea for the MA, would be that Ships that are located by a MARPAT plane (using a target select like we have for Check6 calls) would be visable on the clipboard for a certain amount of time.

In the ToD, it would be more like what you describe above: The computer mission generator would simply not include anti-shipping missions until the target has been located by a MARPAT plane. Once located, strike missions are generated and made available to strike planes, using the last known location of the enemy fleet.

This could be supply, surface action groups, or even CV groups.

When I think about the number of copies of "micro-soft flight simulator" that fly off the shelf with every edition, I know that there is a market for flying which is not directly combat flying. I hope that HTC is going to try and tap that market by adding things like navigation (ie, taking away the "you are here" icon on the clipboard map), but hey, I'm easy going, I'll be happy with pretty much whatever comes out lol.

-Sik

memnon · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2004, 02:58:06 PM »

The Cat can carry torps so it's not like it would be used for just recon. It would be recon and SAD.

Raptor · « **Reply #5 on:** July 02, 2004, 03:31:31 PM »

and depth charges if subs are ever brought into the game

memnon · « **Reply #6 on:** July 02, 2004, 03:38:37 PM »

Would be cool to see if depths could do any damage to a ship if you could get it to go off right under the ship. I'm sure that in reality a depth charge going off right under your ship would have some consepuences.

The black cats replaced the nose guns with 20mms.

Karnak · « **Reply #7 on:** July 02, 2004, 04:42:38 PM »

H8K2 "Emily" is far superior to the Catalina and in the AH MA that matters.

Sikboy · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2004, 04:43:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
H8K2 "Emily" is far superior to the Catalina and in the AH MA that matters.

Word

-Sik

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 02, 2004, 04:59:17 PM »

catalina is more representive for the war (more builded and used)

It would be an easy target dough.

Angus · « **Reply #10 on:** July 03, 2004, 11:55:34 AM »

Don't forget the Short Sunderland

Montezuma · « **Reply #11 on:** July 03, 2004, 12:59:33 PM »

I have no idea what a MARPAT is but that seems like a great idea.

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Originally posted by Sikboy
My idea for the MA, would be that Ships that are located by a MARPAT plane (using a target select like we have for Check6 calls) would be visable on the clipboard for a certain amount of time.

In the ToD, it would be more like what you describe above: The computer mission generator would simply not include anti-shipping missions until the target has been located by a MARPAT plane. Once located, strike missions are generated and made available to strike planes, using the last known location of the enemy fleet.

This could be supply, surface action groups, or even CV groups.

-Sik

Sikboy · « **Reply #12 on:** July 04, 2004, 10:34:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Montezuma
I have no idea what a MARPAT is but that seems like a great idea.

Sorry, MARitime PATrol.

HTC mentioned that they were unsure of how many players in the current game would be interested in ToD, so I'm really hoping that they plan on exploring missions like Maritime Patrol and High Speed Recon, missions which would be considered painfully boring by the current crowd, but are very interesting to some of us.

I've flown the Scout mission in Scenarios (SBDs in Midway, I had a lot of fun scouting there!) and in the Squadron Operations events (scouting for inbound Bombers in BoB set-ups, as well as searching for CVs in Pac setups), and it's one of my favorite things to do. The concept of taking up a PBY, or even better, someday spawning a floatplane off a CA to go look for the enemy. Considering the tactical importance of detection to any Carrier battle, and the extensive use of Aircraft to achieve that detection, I really hope this is included in ToD when they make it to the Pacific.

-Sik

-Sik

Ecke-109- · « **Reply #13 on:** July 04, 2004, 10:45:02 AM »

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...and saved many men who were shot down or have bailed out of their aircraft over the Pacific.

This would be a very nice feature. SAR missions would be great.
Not shure if it needs a Catalina for that. A C-47 will be good as well.
When the C-47 is close to the pilot who needs to be rescued, they exchange a 6-call, and then the bailed pilot is on board. (Or something like that.)
The C-47 gets perks for every rescued pilot and the rescued pilots are able to finish their sortie as 'landed sucessfully'.
I can imagine the thrill bringing home a couple of pilots without beeing shot down.

Sikboy · « **Reply #14 on:** July 04, 2004, 11:22:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy
The concept of taking up a PBY, or even better, someday spawning a floatplane off a CA to go look for the enemy.

Here's my "other" Seaplane wish:

These were assigned to most Japanese Battleships and Cruisers to act as scouts and observation planes.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/ijna/f1m.htm

-Sik