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Offline SaburoS

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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2004, 01:05:40 PM »
I'm with Storch on this one.
The Pig is focused in crystal clear but the man behind it is not (not talking about the face which might have been blurred deliberately). I'm going to take a stab at this (wild guess), I'll bet a P&S type camera was used. They just don't have the tight depth of field a fast lens on a 35mm film or DSLR camera has. The man and the Pig aren't in the same depth of field. I'm only going by the photo details but looking closely, it appears the man's hand isn't actually touching the pig as it appears to be a posed photo. The man is probably closer to 10 feet behind the pig.
The article claims the pig to be 12 feet long, no way. I'd say closer to 4-6 feet in length.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2004, 02:32:13 PM »
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I'm with Storch on this one.
The Pig is focused in crystal clear but the man behind it is not (not talking about the face which might have been blurred deliberately). I'm going to take a stab at this (wild guess), I'll bet a P&S type camera was used. They just don't have the tight depth of field a fast lens on a 35mm film or DSLR camera has. The man and the Pig aren't in the same depth of field. I'm only going by the photo details but looking closely, it appears the man's hand isn't actually touching the pig as it appears to be a posed photo. The man is probably closer to 10 feet behind the pig.
The article claims the pig to be 12 feet long, no way. I'd say closer to 4-6 feet in length.


That was my basis for the hypothesis, the focus.  That may be a 500lb pig.  I've been shooting feral pig since the 1960s all over Florida.  The biggest ones were in the 300lb range and that's a monster feral hog.  The biggest ones are shot behind the agricultural packing plants in the rural counties.  I've seen 1000lb hogs but never in the wild.  Gotta call BS on this one.

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2004, 02:51:58 PM »
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If there was a way to trace wild hog family lineage back you would likely find that many of these "wild hogs" are mixed breeds between farm raised and escaped hogs.  



Thats why they are called feral hogs, boars are a different animal than feral or "wild hogs".


Im a bit skeptical about the pig here though, if you read the story him and his hunting partner were the only ones to see the thing. They didnt call anyone else to come look at it, they buried it on the property. They give a good reason on why he wouldnt want the meat but as far as mounting the head animals with much larger heads are mounted on a regular basis. These facts made me wonder about the validity of it, I mean if there is a question why cant they just go dig up the pig and prove it.

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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2004, 03:24:09 PM »
He he he I just realize something, there is nothing in here that wont be argued about lol......Personaly I dont even think it is a pig.

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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2005, 07:29:55 AM »
Although the original link and pictures are no longer on the linked site there is a new story regarding the monster hog on the wire today.

Hogzilla was real


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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2005, 07:42:19 AM »
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Saltwater fishing is definately more brutal than freshwater fishing.


As with most in-general statements on many subjects, this is BS.

Take a look at the "Culero yada yada" thread started by Steve. Ignore our arguments if you like, see the pics Lizking posted when we started talking fishing.

The bay I'm inviting him (and would welcome others here) to is about 150 square miles of hypersaline water (one of 3 of this type in the world) and its average depth is less than 2 feet. One of his pics shows clearly the depth of water I refer to that we fish in commonly. Catch and release without trauma to sportfish is a common practice here.

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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2005, 09:27:33 AM »
In the pig pic, notice the angle of the shadow behind the man's right leg.  Now notice the lack of any shadow on the man caused by the pig.  

It is my opinion that the pig is in the foreground, no where near the man.

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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2005, 09:35:26 AM »
Notice, the dude is standing a good eight to ten feet behind the fish.  Ditto the guy with the boar.  Common trick many nimrods use to take a more impressive picture.

Seen it done a thousand times.

Yawn.

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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2005, 11:33:28 AM »
Did you read the article? They dug it up and measured and weighted the body.

The pig was real.

Read first. Type later.

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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2005, 12:22:13 PM »
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Although the original link and pictures are no longer on the linked site there is a new story regarding the monster hog on the wire today.

Hogzilla was real



Heehee. I posted about this a couple of days ago as topic "Hogzilla exumed".
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2005, 12:39:46 PM »
So Culero, your argument that saltwater fishing is more humane and less harmful than freshwater fishing is: Showing a bunch of fish that have been caught with no plans on releasing them.

Well heres my evidence-(1) Freshwater fishing implements catch and release, (2) I have seen first hand how many fish survive on deep sea party boats, and also from saltwater fishing piers (3) I have pictures and videos (that I took myself) of how reefs are devoid of large fish and that they are even devoid of numerous fish.

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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2005, 02:20:56 PM »
yes jackal I also saw the  segment on hogzilla on national geographic.  I was amazed that a feral hog could attain that size.  feral hogs don't pause to eat for long, they are constantly on the go and are quite fit.  perhaps there is a produce packaging facility nearby or the good residents of the area are feeding these animals and hoping to attract hunters.  the man who killed hogzilla is a guide afterall.  I still say bravosierra to the whole affair.

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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2005, 02:44:38 PM »
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I went on a deep-sea fishing trip while in Panama city.


I hear the fishing gets better when you get outside the city a ways.

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2005, 02:56:51 PM »
Habu...read MY post.  I was commenting on the trick of sportsmen standing behind their catch or kill to make it look more impressive.

Read the article...the hog wasn't as big by two feet of length and 200 pounds of the claimed weight.

I've seen quite a few feral hogs in my day...some that went well over 500 pounds.  It may be big and very unusual but it isn't quite the monster that it has been made out to be.

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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2005, 08:41:33 PM »
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They also noted the super swine didn't quite live up to the 1,000-pound, 12-foot hype generated when Hogzilla was caught on a farm last summer and photographed hanging from a backhoe.

Donning biohazard suits to exhume the behemoth's smelly remains, the experts estimated Hogzilla was probably only 7 1/2 to 8 feet long, and weighed about 800 pounds.


That is from the article. Not 12 feet. The hog and the guide were not in the same focal plane in that image as they try to fool us into the hog being bigger than it actually was.
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