I predict...

[Dead Man Flying]

Those predisposed to favor Kerry believe he delivered a rousing acceptance speech that demonstrated his presidential caliber and answered any doubts about his credibility.  They believe that now, more than ever, Kerry shall become the next president.

Those predisposed to favor Bush believe Kerry delivered a horrible, sweaty speech which was heavy on flowery and utopian visions but light on detail and substance.  They believe that now, more than ever, Kerry has shown himself incapable of assuming the office of the presidency.

Just respond and quote the position you hold so we can save ourselves from countless threads and endless pages of predictable partisan bickering.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[VOR]

It was kinda like F 9/11. People saw exactly whatever they went to see. If they watched without any preconceived ideas about what to expect, they just walked away confused.

[midnight Target]

Todd is 1/2 right.

[ra]

What did Kerry say that hasn't been said at every Democratic convention for the last 30 years?

[RTStuka]

Originally posted by VOR
It was kinda like F 9/11. People saw exactly whatever they went to see. If they watched without any preconceived ideas about what to expect, they just walked away confused.

Couldnt agree more with you VOR, if people are pure republicans there is nothing that will change their mind about kerry and if someone is pure democrat there is nothing that will change their mind about Bush.

What people really need to do is open their eyes a bit and realize that both parties do have valid points and vote based on who they think have more valid points. Lets face it with todays politicans none of them are perfect and they all rely on money from big business. Because of this all politicans are going to have issues completly actin on their own beliefs and they have to awnser to the people paying for them to be in office. I truly belive the best candiate for president would be someone who was a billionaire that didnt need special interest money to fun for office, but whats the chance of that happening.

[Horn]

I agree w/ MT.

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[TweetyBird]

>>Couldnt agree more with you VOR, if people are pure republicans there is nothing that will change their mind about kerry and if someone is pure democrat there is nothing that will change their mind about Bush. <<

Agree completely. This speech was for the other 15%, like Republicans who don't particularly care for George W. It was a nationalistic theme. Personaly, I'd have left out any referance to radicals like Sharpton. But ya know what - all these years of voting GOP for the sake of social issues has changed NOTHING. It has made me suffer economicaly and, low and behold, almost split NATO. George W. came close to doing what the USSR never could accomplish.

[Nash]

Tweety is zactly right.... and the left/right crap is for the birds.

This speech was for that undecided 15%, and either I'm a complete idiot (arguable), or it reached them.

That was the job at hand, and it was a job well done.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Those predisposed to favor Bush believe Kerry delivered a horrible, sweaty speech which was heavy on flowery and utopian visions but light on detail and substance.  They believe that now, more than ever, Kerry has shown himself incapable of assuming the office of the presidency.

you forgot "VERY" before "sweaty", "heavy", "light"and "incapable" LOL

[Dago]

I am tired of any candidate standing up and saying "I am gonna xxxxxx" , always a promise of how he will make everything better, fix every problem, right every wrong.  All just a bunch of bullsheet.

What I would like to hear is a candidate say how he is gonna fix things.

Then, just once I would like to see one elected official actually do that things he promised to do.  Wouldn't that be a refreshing change.

As the system works now, they stand up and spout unrealistic promises that really border more on bold faced lies, we elect them and they don't do much of anything good, just same old crap.  (unless of course you consider bombing or invading other countries).

dago

[TweetyBird]

>>What I would like to hear is a candidate say how he is gonna fix things.

Then, just once I would like to see one elected official actually do that things he promised to do. Wouldn't that be a refreshing change. <<

Well good luck. If you can get even get a candidate to be specific or things he'dlike to tackle, its a win. Most is presented as abstract -"strong America" "united America" "better health care" "protect social security" etc. etc.

The thing is, I doubt any candidate is 100% sure any problem thats bothering him can be solved. Its a commitment to *try* to solve it, and a hint of what will be wheeled and dealed in congress. And, if not an incumbent, the promise of solving it will be greater when empowered by the office. Its a lot better having someone trying to do something you want than someone oblivious or ignoring what you want. Yea, they could lie and just not even try. But most cases, the reason for failed campaign promises is they just aren't feasible (e.g., "read my lips, no new taxes"). Most times ( at least on a  national level) they try. History is very unkind to outright liars.

[B17Skull12]

i predict i wont vote nor will i watch election coverage.  Damn im good

[Gunslinger]

I took one thing from the speech....kerry is going to raise taxes.

OHHHH they can call it a tax cut roll back but it is still raising taxes.  The people that pay almost all the taxes in this country are now going to pay more.  

[TweetyBird]

FYI, most taxes paid in the United State come from people earning less than $35,000 a year.  This might be wrong - and I'll search this, but I remember the question from a tax accounting course I took. (?) Input?

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by TweetyBird
FYI, most taxes paid in the United State come from people earning less than $35,000 a year.  This might be wrong - and I'll search this, but I remember the question from a tax accounting course I took. (?) Input?

Astronomically wrong.  The top 20% of earners pay more than 80% of federal income taxes.
The fact that the DNC continues to beat the class warfare drum in light of this fact is incredible.  They should get a Nobel Prize for Doublespeak.