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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2004, 03:38:23 AM »
Devil you missed what this post is actually about, I replied to thread that got locked out earlier, this one is a sort of respeonse to it, but thanks for your mostly uninformed opinion nonetheless :D
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2004, 03:41:58 AM »
It's not good to have cheating posts for the simple reason it creats conflict within the AH community, even if someone is cheating.  Remember the Spanish Inquisition?  That is the reason the film should be sent to HT then you should drop it.  I feel HT will do everything he can to prevent people from cheating for the simple reason AH is his livelihood.

P.S.  He did seem to come down on you way to hard though Twitchy

P.P.S.  Wonder how many will be able to reply after me before this thread gets locked...lol?
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2004, 04:22:36 AM »
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It's not good to have cheating posts for the simple reason it creates conflict within the AH community...That is the reason the film should be sent to HT then you should drop it... I feel HT will do everything he can to prevent people from cheating for the simple reason AH is his livelihood.
P.S.  He did seem to come down on you way to hard though Twitchy


I understand the concept of avoiding the conflicts, but where else are we going to discuss it, my point is that this is supposed to a forum to discuss the game , but apparently it is a forum to praise and raise up HTC, or to bash other players... There is plenty of conflict in the BB already in case you haven't seen it, some of you guys are really harsh at times.
Honestly, I would like to know what happens if we do catch somebody -c'wording- I think there should be consequences for it. Well known and oft implemented consequences to let people know that is unacceptable as supressing the information, locking posts out, threatening accounts does very little to prevent it, and even less to answer our questions about it, and filming it only gets a rubber stamp saying "It's Lag".
I know they work hard, hell everybody does, but I want to know why it is SO BAD to mention the C word on a BB that is a product of the community that plays the game when it is a problem we seem to be wanting to have addressed... Threatening my account and accusing me of spreading rumors and locking out a post by a new member who had a legit question is a real gem of customer service. Maybe you guys should warn new members about rule #1, cause when they see "LAG" :aok  problems then they will know up front they can't discuss it in an open forum provided by the game designers.  I agree with you overlag, they keep it quiet cause they can't really detect it or prevent it until after the fact, and then only if somebody has filmed it...

To the new guy who's thread got locked out...
I guess it was all just lag, there are no "c words" in AH...
I apologise for answering your question.

Read it fast guys, probably won't last long. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2004, 04:30:10 AM »
Has HT ever posted anything about people getting banned for cheating?  I'm just wondering if he would let us know if he did catch someone.  I feel he should but that's only my opinion.  There is not much reason to discuss cheating on the BBS because there is no way it can help, what would it accomplish?  There is nothing that we can do about it so we might as well let HT take care of it.

P.S.  I do see the conflicts, I just don't want it to get worse.
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2004, 05:20:47 AM »
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but where else are we going to discuss it



Rumor has it that Barbie.com has devoted an entire thread to this very subject.
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2004, 05:26:23 AM »
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Rumor has it that Barbie.com has devoted an entire thread to this very subject.

So do alot of the gamer review sites ;)
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2004, 06:20:53 AM »
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Devil you missed what this post is actually about, I replied to thread that got locked out earlier, this one is a sort of respeonse to it, but thanks for your mostly uninformed opinion nonetheless :D



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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2004, 06:44:02 AM »
Its not as one sided as you portray.
In the past suspiscous films have been emailed to HTC and appropriate action taken when needed.
Players have been banned when necessary.

Hitechs policy seems to be as follows,

1. Nobody will be allowed to openly discuss the subject on this bbs. A policy i agree with as it will only tempt the tards to go looking for the means to do it.
And Knucklehead Twitchy even goes as far as suggesting where to look. :rolleyes:
If you have this information it belongs in a private email to HTC.

2.  HiTech takes this subject very seriously and he has to.  Now you may choose not to believe that but at the slightest hint he drops everything else he is working on.
I would bet a weeks wages against a pile of crap that he has already checked out your stats and if your in a squad everybody associated with it looking for any anomalies.

3.  HTC will never comment on the findings of an investigation.  So don't wait around for the email saying XXX is guilty as charged and the witchhunt can start.

4. Do not expect HiTech to be pleasant or polite on this subject it is taken very seriously.

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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2004, 07:50:57 AM »
Gotta say I agree with Hitech on this one.

Put your money where your mouts is Twitchy.  You say in the locked thread that you know who is supplying and using the aimbot cheat.  Give the name to Hitech.  By not doing it you are just as big a piece of scum as the cheaters are.

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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2004, 08:13:53 AM »
LOL... Freedom of Speech... this isn't a public forum. Feel free to gather in the street and talk about whatever you'd like... but this is HTC'S BBS. I 100% agree that if you think someone is cheating you should like HTC know about it... but I just don't see this BBS as the place for it.

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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2004, 10:20:35 AM »
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Its not as one sided as you portray.
In the past suspiscous films have been emailed to HTC and appropriate action taken when needed.
Players have been banned when necessary.

Hitechs policy seems to be as follows,

1. Nobody will be allowed to openly discuss the subject on this bbs. A policy i agree with as it will only tempt the tards to go looking for the means to do it.
And Knucklehead Twitchy even goes as far as suggesting where to look. :rolleyes:
If you have this information it belongs in a private email to HTC.

2.  HiTech takes this subject very seriously and he has to.  Now you may choose not to believe that but at the slightest hint he drops everything else he is working on.
I would bet a weeks wages against a pile of crap that he has already checked out your stats and if your in a squad everybody associated with it looking for any anomalies.

3.  HTC will never comment on the findings of an investigation.  So don't wait around for the email saying XXX is guilty as charged and the witchhunt can start.

4. Do not expect HiTech to be pleasant or polite on this subject it is taken very seriously.

 I think this pretty much sums it up.
 Why don't you who don't know any better do a search with Hitech and the "C" word as your parameters.
  Then all your questions will be answered

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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2004, 10:47:05 AM »
Dont like the rules? Dont Play.

Cheaters exist in every game. There are some smart/lucky people out there who can find the cheats. It's our job to watch for anything strange, and then report it to HTC.

Posting it on the board serves no purpose but to encourage the masses to try to recreate what you're describing out in the open on a game forum that tons of people read.

Nothing constructive can come out of an open discussion about cheaters. I know its frustrating to watch someone defy the laws of physics, or do something else totally impossible. But if u tell the suits, they will take care of it. Cheaters are not good for business, and im sure they are not  taken lightly.

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« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2004, 11:04:42 AM »
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But if u tell the suits, they will take care of it.  

Suits? Suits? Bawghahahahahha! This is not EA bud. Rumor has it Skuzz wears cut off overalls and dredlocks. :D
  Between Fariz saying he didn`t vulch and now this I have to get the Windex to clean up the soffee I spit all over the monitor. :D
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« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2004, 11:05:34 AM »
Overlag: We are not trying to cover anything up.

Twitchy: I can not begin to describe how seriously I take this subject.

I Have banned people for simply making a troll claim that they have been cheating.

Anyone found cheating is banned. No ifs ands or buts.

But rumors of cheating are almost as detrimental to AH as cheating it's self. And you have begun to spread rummors by your post. There by you have just made your self part of the problem.

People must have faith that the playing field of AH is a level one. Thats why I take both cheating and the rumor of so seriously,boh have a effect on my buisness.

You claimed to know of cheats, Well until you send me some information on it, I say you are just blowing hot air.

And a warning Twitchy, Don't push me on this topic either send me info dalea@hitechcreations.com , or remain quite.


We do a lot to prevent cheating in AH, but we never discuss what we do, because the discussion it's self makes it easyer for person to try cheat .

So don't expect me to be a resonable person on this topic, because this issue always gets my undivided attention.

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« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2004, 11:18:10 AM »
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Suits? Suits? Bawghahahahahha! This is not EA bud. Rumor has it Skuzz wears cut off overalls and dredlocks. :D
  Between Fariz saying he didn`t vulch and now this I have to get the Windex to clean up the soffee I spit all over the monitor. :D



:)   I was just trying to be nice. Heck, even the people at EA dont wear suits. They wear uniforms with "EA" armbands, and keep their game testors in computer pits where they are continually whipped until they find every bug possible.