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Offline Toad

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« on: August 02, 2004, 11:42:19 AM »
Barring unimaginable revelations/occurances in the present race, I'll probably vote Libertarian.

Yeah, I could write in my dog, Chief, who's probably better at staying on task than either present candidate but even if millions of us wrote in say.... Voss.... it wouldn't really "send a message" to the two dipshirt parties that currently foul our political pool.

OTOH, a strong showing by the Libs might give the party bosses an idea of what the "swing" voters are after.

I like this, personally.

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  a free-market economy of abundance and prosperity

  a foreign policy of non-intervention, peace, and free trade.




Haven't totally decided, but I'm sure leaning that way.

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2004, 12:33:12 PM »
What does this test have to say about your choice?
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2004, 12:42:56 PM »
Hmmmm.  Let's say a group of homos move into the house across the street and start having daily Maplethorpian orgies on their front lawn in full view of your kids.  What recourse would you have under a Libertarian government?

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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2004, 12:45:48 PM »
Toad,
YOUR Dogs mom was a B It Ch! :D



Hmmm I agree with the Libertarian point of view, but I doubt they will ever be a viable 3rd party. It is a shame really. Even if elected the reps and dems in congress and the senate would make sure he was the worst president ever.


Hmmm I am thinking of getting one of those BBQs that have a side firebox, and a chimeney on the otherside and look kinda like a 55 galon drum?  Are those good?
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2004, 12:47:33 PM »
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Hmmmm.  Let's say a group of homos move into the house across the street and start having daily Maplethorpian orgies on their front lawn in full view of your kids.  What recourse would you have under a Libertarian government?

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Better options than you would have under the Democrats :p

You would at least have the freedom to criticize and/or protest against them.
The Democrats would be the homosexuals having orgies on their front lawn as a tribute to their defenders: Bill and Hillary.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2004, 12:51:54 PM »
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Hmmmm.  Let's say a group of homos move into the house across the street and start having daily Maplethorpian orgies on their front lawn in full view of your kids.  What recourse would you have under a Libertarian government?


So, basically this government came in, established a dictatorship - circumvented the rest of the government (congress, house) and abolished all laws, regulations and ordinances?

Rather than going to the extreme that wouldn't happen, why don't you focus on something realistic to pose.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2004, 12:52:29 PM »
I'm with Toad on this one. In my eye the ideal situation would be to have a race as "too close to call". One week after results are in and confirmed as too close to call each presidential candidate gets a flintlock pistol and steps off 25 paces then turns and fires. Whoever lives is president. I'd put my money on Bush for the pre-emptive strike on Kerry in that one. Hell I would even pay money to go watch it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2004, 01:01:47 PM »
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Hmmmm.  Let's say a group of homos move into the house across the street and start having daily Maplethorpian orgies on their front lawn in full view of your kids.  What recourse would you have under a Libertarian government?

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To take responsibility for your kids, be a pro-active parent, and put up a darn fence or hedge on your own property.

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2004, 01:12:24 PM »
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So, basically this government came in, established a dictatorship - circumvented the rest of the government (congress, house) and abolished all laws, regulations and ordinances?

Rather than going to the extreme that wouldn't happen, why don't you focus on something realistic to pose.
-SW

There's nothing extreme about that example.  Under Libertarian government most ordinances restricting private behavior on private property would be eliminated.   So long as a person's behavior doesn't interfere with your basic rights to life and property, the government can't get involved.   The example just shows that Libertarian government is not equiped to handle the basic requirements of a civil society.  

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2004, 01:13:12 PM »
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To take responsibility for your kids, be a pro-active parent, and put up a darn fence or hedge on your own property.

Yes, that sounds like the Libertarian solution.

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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2004, 01:14:48 PM »
An evil multinational corporation, unburdened by regulations or taxes, begins enslaving little children and eating puppies in order to benefit the top three executives who will earn $3 trillion this year alone without paying a cent because they use off-shore tax shelters.

Quick, RA!  What recourse would you have under a Republican government?!?!?

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2004, 01:23:16 PM »
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An evil multinational corporation, unburdened by regulations or taxes, begins enslaving little children and eating puppies in order to benefit the top three executives who will earn $3 trillion this year alone without paying a cent because they use off-shore tax shelters.

Quick, RA!  What recourse would you have under a Republican government?!?!?

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Buy stock??? :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2004, 01:24:11 PM »
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Hmmmm. Let's say a group of homos move into the house across the street and start having daily Maplethorpian orgies on their front lawn in full view of your kids. What recourse would you have under a Libertarian government?


Actually in this case the libertarian solution would be to use the common law doctrine of nuisance--which restricts others from using thier property in an unreasonable way that substantial impairs your quiet enjoyment of your own property.  Money damages would probably abate the nuisance.  The true market solution.

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2004, 01:25:41 PM »
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An evil multinational corporation, unburdened by regulations or taxes, begins enslaving little children and eating puppies in order to benefit the top three executives who will earn $3 trillion this year alone without paying a cent because they use off-shore tax shelters.

Quick, RA!  What recourse would you have under a Republican government?!?!?

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The proper recourse would be to stop watching Michael Moore films.

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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2004, 01:39:18 PM »
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Buy stock??? :rofl :rofl


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What now!  What now!

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