Eny and A8

[Karnak]

I understand that, though I do not know if it will translate into the game.

However I still think that with the perk tags the Spitfire Mk XIV and Ta152H-1 are worth no more than 5 points, even at the infated earning rate.

Being gangbanged in an unsurvivable aircraft is simply not fun and unless the price is drastically lower not enough people will fly it to cause it to lose it's trophy aspect.


We will see who is right after a few months.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Karnak
I understand that, though I do not know if it will translate into the game.

However I still think that with the perk tags the Spitfire Mk XIV and Ta152H-1 are worth no more than 5 points, even at the infated earning rate.

Being gangbanged in an unsurvivable aircraft is simply not fun and unless the price is drastically lower not enough people will fly it to cause it to lose it's trophy aspect.


We will see who is right after a few months.

I think if you were to extrapolate that cost/benifit rationale into the scenario of the past you may be correct. I think in two years of AH I have seen no more than 10 Spit14s. But, if you put that price, factoring in inflation, into the context of a MA where perk planes are relatively common on all sides the relative value of the Spit14 is higher. It is higher because getting gang-banged in the Spit14 will no longer be a foregone conclusion. Instead of being a crowd pleasing novelty act you will be a rather regular sight and treated with no more prejudice than any other late-war ride or mediocre perk plane. I agree though that only time will tell.


Zazen

[Furious]

Originally posted by Karnak
...This is a fighter that despite being an expspensive perk plane managed a whopping 1.17 K/D ratio last tour....

It would be interesting to see how many 14's were carelessly lost by accidently clicking it while trying to select the 9.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Furious
It would be interesting to see how many 14's were carelessly lost by accidently clicking it while trying to select the 9.

Funny you mentioned that, that is the only time I've ever flown a Spit14, not paying attention hit wrong button. Didn't realize it until I was like, "wow this sucker is fast!"....DOH! It usually happens on field defense, when you're in a hurry, bet alot of spit14's get vulched that way!

Zazen

[Karnak]

Spitfire Mk XIV Tour 54 Kills: 443 Deaths: 380

Not very many people used it intentionally or otherwise.

[Edbert]

Zazen and Karnak, I think you guys are saying about the same thing, at least close and are in some agreement. Karnak is right, the Spit14 is far from Uber, the 152 is even further. I'm glad they are cheaper now, MAYBE well see a few more of them about. I think the lowering of the ENY for the big-5 will HELP reduce their numbers some too. This adjustment will take time to settle out though. I'm waiting for the La7 drivers to land 6 kills and see they earned a point

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Edbert MOL
Zazen and Karnak, I think you guys are saying about the same thing, at least close and are in some agreement. Karnak is right, the Spit14 is far from Uber, the 152 is even further. I'm glad they are cheaper now, MAYBE well see a few more of them about. I think the lowering of the ENY for the big-5 will HELP reduce their numbers some too. This adjustment will take time to settle out though. I'm waiting for the La7 drivers to land 6 kills and see they earned a point

If there are more perk planes around due to these changes like I predict, there won't be many Lgay7 drivers landing many kills at all. Someone needs to make an Lgay7 skin with a giant Bullseye on it. Cause if you want to farm perks just hunt Lgay7s in anything!

Zazen

[Karnak]

I think that the Spitfire Mk XIV, F4U-4 and Ta152H-1 simply do not have the performance to survive the icon they carry.

The icon is simply too much.

[RT]

No way the 190a8 should have a lower value than the Jugs.  Looks to me like it was an arbitrary move ... that the a8 and F8 values were reversed.  

The 190a8 is what I mostly play, and having familiarity with how it stacks up to other planes according to manuveurability and versatility, it just doesn't have the value assigned, in my opinion.  It carries 1 thousand pound bomb, and has to carry at least 3/4 fuel load for barely adequate attack range.  

Only players with very good gunnery and who practice discipline in how they engage stand a chance to land kills in an a8.  As usual, vulching hordes are excluded, as are those using it with solid wingman and section tactics.  

But what bothers me is not its deficiencies when it stacks up to other models, what bothers me is that I will earn less perks and wont have as many to burn up.  Secondly, I try to fly high eny planes ... planes over 30 anyway, so 25 is getting near the border of embarrassing.  

Lastly, if you want to generalize about the new values, start a general thread, this one is for 190a8 drivers to vent

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by RT
No way the 190a8 should have a lower value than the Jugs.  Looks to me like it was an arbitrary move ... that the a8 and F8 values were reversed.  

The 190a8 is what I mostly play, and having familiarity with how it stacks up to other planes according to manuveurability and versatility, it just doesn't have the value assigned, in my opinion.  It carries 1 thousand pound bomb, and has to carry at least 3/4 fuel load for barely adequate attack range.  

Only players with very good gunnery and who practice discipline in how they engage stand a chance to land kills in an a8.  As usual, vulching hordes are excluded, as are those using it with solid wingman and section tactics.  

But what bothers me is not its deficiencies when it stacks up to other models, what bothers me is that I will earn less perks and wont have as many to burn up.  Secondly, I try to fly high eny planes ... planes over 30 anyway, so 25 is getting near the border of embarrassing.  

Lastly, if you want to generalize about the new values, start a general thread, this one is for 190a8 drivers to vent

Keep in mind ENY rating has nothing to do with ordnance loadout or its relative usefullness on attack missions, that is covered under the OBJ rating.

Zazen

[simshell]

i think we will see a small more amount of perk planes but nothing big


    
Karnak you are right to it has alot to do with the icon 1 tour when i came back after a brake from AH i flew only the P40E and boy does everbody like the P40 icon

tho i was able to go some thing like 25 kills  and 5 deaths in it forget the real number it was some thing like that.

the FW190A-8 is a good aircraft in some ways it is better then the P47D-40 and in others it cant hope to match the jug

i would call them even aircraft

 last night i was low on perk points so i took a A6M2 landed a kill then took a Spit1 and landed 3    

tho i feel like im the only one flying the F4U4 SPIT14 Tempest ME262 even TA152  ever month almost

[Stang]

It would be interesting to see how many 14's were carelessly lost by accidently clicking it while trying to select the 9.

LOL F, I did that at a field that was being vulched... had no idea I was in the 14, just upped it thinking I was in the 9 defending the field against the horde.  Somehow I managed to not get killed, landed 7 kills, saw I did it in a 14 and was like... DOH!  hehe