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Offline Gunslinger

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« on: August 02, 2004, 10:47:47 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/africa/08/02/southafrica.attack.reut/index.html


JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (Reuters) -- Attackers hacked off a South African boy's hand, ear and genitals and left him for dead in what police said could be part of the "muti" trade in body parts for witchcraft.

Sello Chokoe, 10, was in critical condition in a hospital Monday after he was attacked near the village of GaMaleka in South Africa's rural northern province of Limpopo.

Chokoe was searching for cattle in nearby mountains Friday when he was attacked, hit on the head with a blunt weapon and left for dead, said police spokesman Mohale Ramatseba.

A woman collecting firewood found him after hearing his faint cry for help.

"The motive has not been established but we don't rule out the prospect that it could be 'muti'-related," Ramatseba said.

He said several similar crimes had happened in the area before and arrests were expected soon in the latest case after a flood of information from outraged locals.

"Muti" murders -- killings to obtain body parts for supposedly potent traditional cures -- still happen with alarming regularity in post-apartheid South Africa and often go unreported, police say.

Killings are often carried out to meet a specific order, police say. For example, a hand might be cut off to sell to a shopkeeper who would bury it under the shop door to entice customers' money

ABIDJAN, Ivory Coast (Reuters) -- A United Nations human rights team has found three mass graves with at least 99 bodies in Ivory Coast's northern rebel stronghold of Korhogo, the U.N. mission in the West African country said on Monday.

A U.N. spokesman in the main city Abidjan said the victims had been killed during clashes between rival factions on June 20-21. He said it was not clear whether civilians were among the dead.

"Some of these people were killed by bullets. According to reliable and consistent witness accounts, others died from suffocation," the U.N. mission said in a statement.

The June clashes followed what rebels said was a failed assassination attempt against the political leader of their movement, Guillaume Soro.

The rebels said at the time several fighters detained after an attack on Soro's convoy in Korhogo had disclosed that they backed Ibrahim Coulibaly, a Paris-based military chief rival to Soro. Coulibaly -- known as "IB" -- has denied any involvement.

London-based human rights group Amnesty International said it had received information indicating that dozens of people arrested by Soro's forces had been put in containers and died from suffocation.

Others appeared to have been decapitated or killed with their hands bound behind their back, it said in a statement.

The U.N. team which visited Korhogo said it was concerned about the people who were still in detention. A full report was due to be published soon.

"We have nothing to say for the moment, until the report comes out," rebel spokesman Sidiki Konate said.

Ivory Coast, the world's top cocoa producer, has been split in two since a civil war grew out of a failed coup in September 2002.

The conflict was declared over last year but progress towards peace has been slow and human rights groups say serious abuses and killings have continued in both the rebel-held north and government-controlled south.

Between the two sides are 4,000 French soldiers with another 6,240 peacekeepers being sent by the United Nations.

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2004, 11:07:10 PM »
Rather like when Colonel John Chivington attacked a peaceful Cheyenne and Arapaho camp at Sand Creek, Colorado in 1864.  The chief of the group, Black Kettle, was a peaceful ally of the U.S. and was camped where he was told to camp by U.S. Army major Edward Wynkoop.  Black Kettle's camp was even flying a U.S. flag and a white flag to signify his peaceful intentions.

  Chivington went in with 700 volunteers and killed them all. He is famously reported to have said "kill and scalp them all; nits make lice." Most of the men were out hunting, so the death toll was over 100 women and children and 28 men.  All of them were scalped, and had their genitals removed as trophies - including the children.  A year later, Chivington displayed 100 scalps on an opera stage in Colorado and was cheered as a hero.  Most of the scalps were women's.

  Americans can sure be violent.

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2004, 11:07:28 PM »
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Between the two sides are 4,000 French soldiers with another 6,240 peacekeepers being sent by the United Nations.
but they wont send any troops into a place trying to rid a dictator who killed hundreds of thousands.


the UN
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2004, 11:27:04 PM »
73 might i remind you

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2004, 11:42:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Sceadu
Rather like when Colonel John Chivington attacked a peaceful Cheyenne and Arapaho camp at Sand Creek, Colorado in 1864.  The chief of the group, Black Kettle, was a peaceful ally of the U.S. and was camped where he was told to camp by U.S. Army major Edward Wynkoop.  Black Kettle's camp was even flying a U.S. flag and a white flag to signify his peaceful intentions.

  Chivington went in with 700 volunteers and killed them all. He is famously reported to have said "kill and scalp them all; nits make lice." Most of the men were out hunting, so the death toll was over 100 women and children and 28 men.  All of them were scalped, and had their genitals removed as trophies - including the children.  A year later, Chivington displayed 100 scalps on an opera stage in Colorado and was cheered as a hero.  Most of the scalps were women's.

  Americans can sure be violent.



you could see this response coming before you even open this thread.

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2004, 11:49:51 PM »
It is true, none the less.

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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2004, 12:24:45 AM »
True, but there's no need to state nations really. It's human nature to be greedy & evil.

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2004, 08:31:04 AM »
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True, but there's no need to state nations really. It's human nature to be greedy & evil.


yet no one has made the connection yet.

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2004, 12:47:10 PM »
Hmm.... 1864?   in that case then at least 3/4 of the troops were probly first generation eurotrash.

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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2004, 12:51:50 PM »
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Hmm.... 1864?   in that case then at least 3/4 of the troops were probly first generation eurotrash.

lazs


How many generations does it take to be an American?  I thought the answer is actually....none.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2004, 12:57:12 PM »
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Hmm.... 1864?   in that case then at least 3/4 of the troops were probly first generation eurotrash.

lazs


So what generation does that make you?

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2004, 01:26:53 PM »
knotty,knotty,knotty

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2004, 04:57:51 PM »
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Rather like when Colonel John Chivington attacked a peaceful Cheyenne and Arapaho camp at Sand Creek, Colorado in 1864. The chief of the group, Black Kettle, was a peaceful ally of the U.S. and was camped where he was told to camp by U.S. Army major Edward Wynkoop. Black Kettle's camp was even flying a U.S. flag and a white flag to signify his peaceful intentions.

Chivington went in with 700 volunteers and killed them all. He is famously reported to have said "kill and scalp them all; nits make lice." Most of the men were out hunting, so the death toll was over 100 women and children and 28 men. All of them were scalped, and had their genitals removed as trophies - including the children. A year later, Chivington displayed 100 scalps on an opera stage in Colorado and was cheered as a hero. Most of the scalps were women's.

Americans can sure be violent.


So, basically you are saying is  that Africans are about 140 years behind the USA in evolution and societal development?


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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2004, 05:26:50 PM »
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True, but there's no need to state nations really. It's human nature to be greedy & evil.



so americans are humans too :confused:

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2004, 06:14:21 PM »
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so americans are humans too :confused:


boy u guys are reallly missing the point :p